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    Re: Who Should Have Final Say On Military Matters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    When was the last time an honest politician was elected to POTUS? Point being is that just because they are elected by us doesn't mean that they have to do what we say.
    Personally, I elect leaders to "lead" not to simply mindlessly represent. If we do not like the manner in which someone is conducting themselves we can vote them out of office.

    Look at Bush's last term in office. He pretty much said "screw you I'm going to do what I want regardless of what you people say".
    And the showing of the Republican Party in the 2008 election was largely negative because of it. That is how the system works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlanaganReport View Post
    Personally, I elect leaders to "lead" not to simply mindlessly represent. If we do not like the manner in which someone is conducting themselves we can vote them out of office.
    That is their job. Their job is not to take the country in the direction that they think it should go but to take in the direction that The People want it to go. I think that many seem to forget that this country is For the People and Of the People. Not For the Politicians and Of the Politicians.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlanaganReport View Post
    And the showing of the Republican Party in the 2008 election was largely negative because of it. That is how the system works.
    Yes the majority of Republicans was hurt because of Bush's actions. But he was still able to take those actions regardless of what the people wanted. And that is the point I'm trying to make. Once they are in office they can do what ever they please until they are elected out of office or break the law. Beyond your vote you have no say.
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    Re: Who Should Have Final Say On Military Matters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    That is their job. Their job is not to take the country in the direction that they think it should go but to take in the direction that The People want it to go. I think that many seem to forget that this country is For the People and Of the People. Not For the Politicians and Of the Politicians.
    Their job is to lead, often that involves making hard choices.

    If we do not like the job someone has done, vote them out of office, surely we cannot expect that an elected leader will represent our views 100% of the time, because we are not the only people in their constituencies.

    Yes the majority of Republicans was hurt because of Bush's actions. But he was still able to take those actions regardless of what the people wanted. And that is the point I'm trying to make. Once they are in office they can do what ever they please until they are elected out of office or break the law. Beyond your vote you have no say.
    What more do you want other than your vote?

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    Re: Who Should Have Final Say On Military Matters?

    Quote Originally Posted by FlanaganReport View Post
    Their job is to lead, often that involves making hard choices.

    If we do not like the job someone has done, vote them out of office, surely we cannot expect that an elected leader will represent our views 100% of the time, because we are not the only people in their constituencies.
    The only real leadership that they should be doing is in the foriegn and military tactics departments. When it comes to domestic matters they should be listening to the people who they will affect and elected them into office. IE The People.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlanaganReport View Post
    What more do you want other than your vote?
    I want them to listen to The People and do what they want. Is that really too much to ask of them? If the majority of people do not want our troops in a war then the President should pull out the troops. If the majority of people want government controlled health care then that is what the President should aim for. If the majority of people want our troops in a country then that is what the President should do.

    Of the People and For the People. That is the very foundation of what this country and government was founded on.
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    Re: Who Should Have Final Say On Military Matters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The only real leadership that they should be doing is in the foriegn and military tactics departments. When it comes to domestic matters they should be listening to the people who they will affect and elected them into office. IE The People.

    I want them to listen to The People and do what they want. Is that really too much to ask of them? If the majority of people do not want our troops in a war then the President should pull out the troops. If the majority of people want government controlled health care then that is what the President should aim for. If the majority of people want our troops in a country then that is what the President should do.

    Of the People and For the People. That is the very foundation of what this country and government was founded on.
    Why not just hold a referendum on every issue that comes up then?

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    Re: Who Should Have Final Say On Military Matters?

    Quote Originally Posted by FlanaganReport View Post
    Why not just hold a referendum on every issue that comes up then?
    Tough issue you guys brought up. Is a pure democracy really a good thing? (I don't think so but it's a tough question)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlanaganReport View Post
    Why not just hold a referendum on every issue that comes up then?
    I say do it. Of course it could be setup to be alot easier to find out what the people want than the expensive process of a referendum. Especially in today's age of the internet.
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    Re: Who Should Have Final Say On Military Matters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I say do it. Of course it could be setup to be alot easier to find out what the people want than the expensive process of a referendum. Especially in today's age of the internet.
    I would be totally opposed to that. Most of the issues that come up the public has no clue about.

    Let us take missile defense for example, do we really want the general public voting on an issue that 90% of people could not even generally explain how it functioned?

    It seems that we will just disagree on this issue.

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    Re: Who Should Have Final Say On Military Matters?

    I find this poll result fascinating so far. It's been almost perfectly evenly split throughout the day, with no ideological bias.

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    Re: Who Should Have Final Say On Military Matters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Can you tell anyone in the military what to do?
    Missed this b4. If you are asking if a President can do that, the answer is yes. The President is CinC & any lawful order he gives must be carried out or you can be court-martialed for disobedience.

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