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Drug Test

Should we have a drug test from every job in America?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 8.7%
  • No

    Votes: 29 63.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 13 28.3%

  • Total voters
    46
  • Poll closed .
So? It's their company. Just like Abercrombie & Fitch not wanting to hire "unattractive" people. That's their prerogative.

Are their janitors pretty too?
 
What is to stop them from doing that? Say a vegan company wants to dictate their employees can not eat meat?

The only thing that stops them is that the job at that point becomes less desirable.
 
I was obviously referring to the people that work in the stores.

And I was talking about job roles. Would a fat man be a great tiddie dancer? I doubt it. It still does not mean a company owns my body off the clock.
 
The only thing that stops them is that the job at that point becomes less desirable.

Jobs for the most part are not desirable careers are to some extent.
 
And I was talking about job roles. Would a fat man be a great tiddie dancer? I doubt it. It still does not mean a company owns my body off the clock.
If they want you to get in shape, that's their prerogative. I personally know a woman who worked for Bone Daddy's(a "Hooters-esque" establishment) and was told that if she did not lose 10lbs. she would be fired. There's nothing wrong with that, from a business standpoint.
 
Jobs for the most part are not desirable careers are to some extent.

So if you have a choice between a company that tells you what to eat and a company that doesn't, then which do you pick?
 
If they want you to get in shape, that's their prerogative. I personally know a woman who worked for Bone Daddy's(a "Hooters-esque" establishment) and was told that if she did not lose 10lbs. she would be fired. There's nothing wrong with that, from a business standpoint.

I guess she should stop smoking pot and getting the muchies chowing down on hot wings. J/k
 
I didn't argue otherwise, but thanks for playing. :2wave:
No, you just expressed how it would hurt your feelings. :boohoo:

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Well, you do not have the same "choice" involved with employment as you do with your government. It is easier to quit my job than to move to France, and hopefully keep my job; but if not find another to replace my former income.;)

And yet, if 90% of employers whose jobs you qualify for adopt drug testing policies, you'll have to move to France anyway. And you don't get to vote companies out of office if they abuse their power.
 
No, you just expressed how it would hurt your feelings. :boohoo:

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I don't see where exactly you are confused. There should not be a drug test for jobs where there aren't any safety issues (unless the employer suspects a specific person), because that would be retarded, offensive to the employees, and a waste of corporate money. That does not mean that they don't have the "right" to do so, and since I never argued otherwise I suggest you cease and desist with the strawmen attacks.

Now do you actually have anything to say about the subject at hand?
 
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I have retired as a company director of three companies that I started from scratch.

Ps Im 58yrs old and have smoked weed since I was 14 yrs old.

That how I coped with my employee's.

Really? I thought that "stress reliever number one" was to fire all your employees. LOL.
 
I think it's funny how some people don't want "big govt" involved in their lives in any manner, but are perfectly happy to serve up themselves to big business in ways that even George Orwell couldn't imagine.

George Orwell couldn't imagine having to prove that you aren't doing anything illegal to get hired :confused:

Orwell must not have had a very functional imagination.
 
I don't see where exactly you are confused. There should not be a drug test for jobs where there aren't any safety issues (unless the employer suspects a specific person), because that would be retarded, offensive to the employees, and a waste of corporate money. That does not mean that they don't have the "right" to do so, and since I never argued otherwise I suggest you cease and desist with the strawmen attacks.

Now do you actually have anything to say about the subject at hand?
Oh nose, I've been given a Cease and Desist order.

I'm not confused at all. I just find it rather amusing and certainly would not want someone working for our company that would be so easily offended and so whiny. :2wave:

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Oh nose, I've been given a Cease and Desist order.

I'm not confused at all. I just find it rather amusing and certainly would not want someone working for our company that would be so easily offended and so whiny. :2wave:

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Do you understand that "ZOMG TEH PRIVAT COMPANYS CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT LOL!!!" is not actually a rational argument as to whether or not they *should* do certain things?

And I don't think it's being "easily offended" if an employer presumes his employees are using drugs. Unless, of course, he has some reason for that belief. Most people would be pissed off by those kind of accusations, and rightly so.
 
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Drug tests are an invasion of privacy and should be illegal.
What an employee does in his or her own home that has no effect on their job is absolutely none of their employer's business.

I fully believe an employer has the right to terminate any employee using drugs at work or at such a time when they might possibly effect their work performance.
But drug tests are not used for that. They are used to determine drug use within a 30 day period.

Alcohol is considerably worse than some "drugs". A drug test makes even less sense than testing an employee to see if they have had a sip of alcohol in the last 30 days, after work, and in the privacy of their home.
 
Drug tests are an invasion of privacy and should be illegal.
What an employee does in his or her own home that has no effect on their job is absolutely none of their employer's business.

But employees would choose to subject themselves to that drug test in order to keep their job. It's not really an invasion of privacy.

The real invasion of privacy is the government forcing us to tell them about our income and other information, but that's for another thread.
 
Do you understand that "ZOMG TEH PRIVAT COMPANYS CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT LOL!!!" is not actually a rational argument as to whether or not they *should* do certain things?

And I don't think it's being "easily offended" if an employer presumes his employees are using drugs. Unless, of course, he has some reason for that belief. Most people would be pissed off by those kind of accusations, and rightly so.
I've not seen a rational argument from you as to why you think you know better than a company's executives and BOD what is in their company's best interest. Must be Georgetown kinda thing.

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I've not seen a rational argument from you as to why you think you know better than a company's executives and BOD what is in their company's best interest. Must be Georgetown kinda thing.

Ya, assessing companies' problems and the things they do stupidly is kinda my job. But if you want to trust that CEOs are omniscient and can do no wrong, that is your prerogative. Every business needs some good grunts. ;)
 
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Ya, assessing companies' problems and the things they do stupidly is kinda my job.
Condolences to your clients. ;)

But if you want to trust that CEOs are omniscient and can do no wrong, that is your prerogative. Every business needs some good grunts. ;)
Unlike some, I am not so arrogant as to assume I know what is in a company's best interest that I have nothing to do with better than those charged with running that company. :sigh:

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Unlike some, I am not so arrogant as to assume I know what is in a company's best interest that I have nothing to do with better than those charged with running that company.

Then perhaps you shouldn't post in a thread that deals with exactly such a topic, and leave the discussion to those of us who ARE willing and able to offer educated opinions on corporate strategy. No one is forcing you to say anything at all. :2wave:
 
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why should someone get fired for smokin a little herb off the job. nah **** that drug test
 
why should someone get fired for smokin a little herb off the job. nah **** that drug test

So long as it's not on the job I have no problem with it.
 
me too. if someones doing drugs on the job, theyre prolly gonna get canned but with the drug test theres no way of knowing if someones doin it on company time or not
 
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