View Poll Results: Should we have a drug test from every job in America?

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    Re: Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Because if they don't want any tokers working for them then that's the company's prerogative.
    Is also the perogative to tell you what you can and can not eat in private home?

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    Re: Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I voted other. It should be at the discretion of the employer.
    Exactly my thoughts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I'm against drug testing at jobs that aren't related to the public or civil services. As an employer I'd only be concerned with job performance and functionality. If the person works great as part of the team and gets their work done, then what they do in their off time is none of my business.

    It's an invasion of personal privacy and should be illegal, just like it should be illegal for corporate powers to invade your personal finances to find out what your credit is like before hiring you. That is none of their damn businesses.
    Its not directly their business, unless you allow it to be. However, their business doesn't have to be your business if you don't play by their rules.

    In no way shape or form should background checks, credit checks, drug checks, or other sort of things be illegal. If a company wants the position to be contingent on such things that's their right.

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    Re: Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    And it probably wouldn't be worth the expense, so the company probably wouldn't do it.
    Not necessarily. Companies do stupid, irrational **** all the time.

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    However, if the company wanted to, then why shouldn't they be able to?
    I didn't say they shouldn't be able to. I said it's retarded.
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    Re: Drug Test

    I find drug tests to be pointless. If I want to smoke pot or do other illegal substances in my spare time, I feel like that is my business. It should only become a problem if it affects my ability to work and be productive when I'm on the clock.

    I voted "other", as I believe it should be up to the employer.
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    Re: Drug Test

    I am curious to know, for those who support the idea that any employer ought to be able to require a drug test of their employees, how far this principle ought to extend. The idea seems to be that an employer has the right to employ the sort of employee they want, and therefore may justly require a drug test.

    How far does this principle extend? Is it absolute? If it is not, why does it extend to cover drug use, especially with regard to jobs that wouldn't have any kind of liability involvement?

    For instance, should an employer be able to employ only those whose sexual practices are to their liking? If an employer does not wish to employ someone who has sex with their spouse, should they be allowed to require some test to confirm this?

    Should an employer be able to employ only those whose spouse also makes a certain income level? Should an employer be able to employ only those who prefer Shakespeare over Shelley? How about employment only for those who harbor racist beliefs of some sort? Or employment only for people who have a genital piercing?

    I'm not really interested in the specific answers to these questions so much as the more general inqury they represent. Again, the idea behind free choice on drug tests is based on a certain principle--namely, that an employer should be able to employ only those sorts of people they want, entailing that the employer can legitimately test the personal practices of the employee. Why does that principle cover, or not, the instances above, or others like them?

    Exempt from the discussion are jobs where there is a legitimate practical reason for drug testing, IMO. For instance, someone who has to handle heavy machinery or dangerous equipment should be required not to use drugs.

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    Re: Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    Exempt from the discussion are jobs where there is a legitimate practical reason for drug testing, IMO. For instance, someone who has to handle heavy machinery or dangerous equipment should be required not to use drugs.
    Only if they are stoned on the job. If they go home after the job and toke and or drink I have no problem.

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    Re: Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Is also the perogative to tell you what you can and can not eat in private home?
    Yeah, if that's what they want to do.

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    Re: Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Yeah, if that's what they want to do.
    What is to stop them from doing that? Say a vegan company wants to dictate their employees can not eat meat?

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    Re: Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    What is to stop them from doing that? Say a vegan company wants to dictate their employees can not eat meat?
    So? It's their company. Just like Abercrombie & Fitch not wanting to hire "unattractive" people. That's their prerogative.
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    Re: Drug Test

    Companies should be allowed to drug test their employees if they want. Now I think they should also be required to pay for the testing. And I think there are some jobs that could affect public safety that it should absolutely be a requirement.
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