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    Re: Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Then as long as the corporation is functional and profitable, then what they spend their money on is irrelevant.
    That's certainly an odd way to look at business. Berkshire Hathaway and JetBlue are both "functional and profitable," but one is a lot moreso than the other. It's perfectly valid to question how businesses spend their money, whether they're profitable or not.
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    Re: Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by jr602az View Post
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    Should we have a drug test from every job in America & why?
    Who's going to pay for it? This would cost billions in whatever currency you used.

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    Re: Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Then as long as the corporation is functional and profitable, then what they spend their money on is irrelevant.
    How is that equivalent to monitoring the private life of an employee? Your analogy is really off base.

    If a corporation is spending money in ways that affects the public realm, then people are obviously going to know about it and have various reactions. If someone goes to work and performs normally but smokes pot in their off hours, no one would be the wiser unless an actual drug test is done and people choose to freak out over it.

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    Re: Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    That's certainly an odd way to look at business. Berkshire Hathaway and JetBlue are both "functional and profitable," but one is a lot moreso than the other. It's perfectly valid to question how businesses spend their money, whether they're profitable or not.
    Exactly, just as it's perfectly valid to ask if an employee is doing drugs.

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    Re: Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Of course not. I don't think employers should routinely test people, unless the job is of a nature where drug use could be dangerous. If they have a reasonable suspicion that a specific employee is using drugs, that's a different story. Test away. I know I would be very offended if an employer asked me to submit to a drug test as a condition for employment.
    You have the right to be offended and go look for a job somewhere else.

    If an employer thinks it is in their best interest to have being drug free a condition of employment, they should have every right to do so.

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    Re: Drug Test

    I voted no. Because then we would have to scrap liberal arts degrees, as there would not be any professors that were employable.
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    Re: Drug Test

    All drugs and all other "victimless crimes" should be legalized, and all employers should be allowed to decide for themselves what their hiring and employee oversight practices should be.

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    Re: Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    You have the right to be offended and go look for a job somewhere else.

    If an employer thinks it is in their best interest to have being drug free a condition of employment, they should have every right to do so.

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    Re: Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Exactly, just as it's perfectly valid to ask if an employee is doing drugs.
    No, it's stupid to do so unless the job has safety/liability issues that might come into play if employees were doing drugs, or unless they had a reason to believe that a specific employee was doing drugs.

    Making people take a drug test as a condition for employment as, say, a waitress or a Wal-Mart greeter is retarded.
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    Re: Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Making people take a drug test as a condition for employment as, say, a waitress or a Wal-Mart greeter is retarded.
    And it probably wouldn't be worth the expense, so the company probably wouldn't do it. However, if the company wanted to, then why shouldn't they be able to?

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