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    Re: Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    People choose to work there, people choose to buy from there. It's not some sort of mafia.
    It's not a mafia... just a corporate machine that has no regard for local business, economy, or culture. It stamps one of its mega stores into the earth and sucks the area dry.

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    If people really hated it so much in those areas where it somehow does damage, they'd boycott it.
    The demographic of those who tend to shop at walmart are ignorant of the devastation that shopping there causes.

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    That is terrible. Stores should not need permission from the government to exist.
    The government responded at the behest of local businesses, protests, and petitions. Unlike in so many other places that fought to have walmart rejected but failed, the Vancouver city council actually listened.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Stores can't care about human beings because, you know, they aren't sentient....
    See, you're getting it!

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    Re: Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    No... instead, Walmart should be banned from areas where it will do immense damage to the local culture and economy. Vancouver did this in the 90's, saving all of its independent businesses in the process.
    Some towns do this already, in some towns big box retailers need approval from town governments.
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    Re: Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Considering the effects of market power and labor market coercion caused by severe inequalities, that's a rather utopian outlook.
    Please, tell me what you mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Please, tell me what you mean.
    You don't know what market power is?

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_power]Market power - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

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    Re: Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    You should know by now that Agna doesn't do humor.
    he does, I've seen!!

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    Of course they should be unionized, when unions were big, the middle class was also big, when the unions started declining so did the middle class. Coincidence? I think not.
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    Re: Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    You don't know what market power is?

    Market power - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Hmm... so it's basically how much of a monopoly/monopsony something is.

    Well, seeing as Walmart is neither of these things, not even close, and is just a simple retailer with tons of competition in the form of other simple retailers, "the effects of market power" are negligible.

    Now let's move on to "labor market coercion".

    Hm... according to Wikipedia, economic coercion requires market power, so it too can be disregarded.

    Now, what are these "severe inequalities" you speak of?

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    Re: Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Hmm... so it's basically how much of a monopoly/monopsony something is.
    That's already wrong to begin with, and doesn't consider the additional elements of oligopoly/oligopsony. Start over.

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    Re: Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    That's already wrong to begin with, and doesn't consider the additional elements of oligopoly/oligopsony. Start over.
    Okay, so tell me what these "severe inequalities" that cause all this are.

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    Re: Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Okay, so tell me what these "severe inequalities" that cause all this are.
    Principled objection will be to the nature of permanent class divisions and constrictions on social mobility that are so prevalent in the U.S. This enables a financial class to exert control over the means of production, and use the power they've consolidated over their private property to deprive the remainder of the population from access to it unless they engage in wage labor. It's a matter of the threat of resource deprivation being a source of coercion in the capitalist labor market.

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