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  • Fire arms/weapons registrations

    16 57.14%
  • Waiting Periods.

    14 50.00%
  • Laws governing how firearms are to be stored.

    11 39.29%
  • Firearms/weapon class requirement.

    10 35.71%
  • Convicted felons and certified crazy people permanently banned from firearms/weapon ownership.

    17 60.71%
  • Convicted felons and certified crazy people temporarily banned from firearms/weapon ownership

    13 46.43%
  • Age minimum requirement to buy firearms/weapons(please specify)

    24 85.71%
  • Firearm magazine size restrictions(please specify)

    6 21.43%
  • ban on certain firearms/weapons (please specify)

    15 53.57%
  • other(please specify)

    3 10.71%
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    Re: What do you define as reasonable restrictions for the second amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Doesn't matter; they agree with me.
    They certainly do, but I don't think it should matter in an intellectual discussion. Nothing irks me more than hearing a person cite the SCOTUS as a confirmation of their argument or a negation of someone else’s.

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    Re: What do you define as reasonable restrictions for the second amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    They certainly do, but I don't think it should matter in an intellectual discussion. Nothing irks me more than hearing a person cite the SCOTUS as a confirmation of their argument or a negation of someone else’s.
    No, I totally agree. Just sayin', either way, I'm covered here.
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    Re: What do you define as reasonable restrictions for the second amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Why!? Why do you use this argument? Do you know how many times the SCOTUS has been wrong? I mean, did they become infallible once you were born or something? Appeals to authority are the worst kind of illogical nonsense.
    Who is the final arbiter of whether a law is constitutional or not? You and I can discuss it, but our discussions mean exactly jack, as it is SCOTUS that ends up deciding. IF SCOTUS says something is constitutional, then it is, until a later SCOTUS changes it's mind. They are the final authority.

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    Re: What do you define as reasonable restrictions for the second amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Who is the final arbiter of whether a law is constitutional or not?
    The People.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: What do you define as reasonable restrictions for the second amendment?

    I went with fire arms registrations, storage laws, temporary bans for the mentally ill and felons, and prohibitions on certain firearms.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The People.
    According to the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme Court decides.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 09-25-09 at 08:44 PM.

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    Re: What do you define as reasonable restrictions for the second amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    I went with fire arms registrations, storage laws, temporary bans for the mentally ill and felons, and prohibitions on certain firearms.



    According to the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme Court decides.
    According to the US Constitution, rights are reserved for the People. The Courts were not constricted as much as the other branches and reached out. However, the government itself has no innate power or soveriegnty. Everything it wields, it wields at behest of the People. The People are the sovereigns and thus the final say is up to us. It is one of the reasons we instituted trial by a jury of your peers.
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    Re: What do you define as reasonable restrictions for the second amendment?

    The only restrictions I support are that convicts and crazy people should be temporarily banned from arms, and age restrictions on purchase.

    Convicts, banned until they are released of course; can't have them packing guns in prison. Bear in mind that I don't believe murderers, rapists, home invaders, armed robbers and such should EVER be released, as they've demonstrated they are not fit to be part of society.

    Crazy people (addicts etc) banned until they are demonstrably not-crazy and notta-threat...if they can ever be so demonstrated.

    Age restrictions: 18 to buy any firearm or ammo. If you can vote and join the military at 18, you can buy arms at 18. If you're 15 or 12 or whatever, and your parents want to let you possess a firearm for sporting purposes or target shooting or whatever, they can buy you one and be responsible for your possession of it and use of it. For the most part I think the parents are the best judge of whether their child is competent in this regard or not.
    (I started shooting at age 5 and owned my first -gift- firearm at 12.)

    Otherwise, no restrictions.

    I assume, btw, that we're exercising some tiny measure of common sense, and excluding WMD's from the definition of "arms".
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    Re: What do you define as reasonable restrictions for the second amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    According to the U.S. Constitution, the Supreme Court decides.
    Not actually, no. According to Marbury v. Madison, a SCOTUS case, yes.
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    Re: What do you define as reasonable restrictions for the second amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post


    Yes. We have an age limit for lots of other things which society has deemed dangerous, such as automobiles, cigarettes, and alcohol. Why not firearms too?
    Those other things you listed are not constitutional rights. The 26th amendment standardizes the right to vote to a citizen at least 18 years old.
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    Re: What do you define as reasonable restrictions for the second amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I started shooting at age 5
    Toddlers with guns... yikes!

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