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    Re: Should Convicted Terrorists Be Executed?

    Quote Originally Posted by B L Zeebub View Post
    Capital Punishment is state sanctioned murder.
    It is not murder.

    Murder:

    –noun 1. Law. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder), and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder).
    2. Slang. something extremely difficult or perilous: That final exam was murder!
    3. a group or flock of crows.

    –verb (used with object) 4. Law. to kill by an act constituting murder.
    5. to kill or slaughter inhumanly or barbarously.
    6. to spoil or mar by bad performance, representation, pronunciation, etc.: The tenor murdered the aria.

    –verb (used without object) 7. to commit murder.

    —Idioms8. get away with murder, Informal. to engage in a deplorable activity without incurring harm or punishment: The new baby-sitter lets the kids get away with murder.
    9. murder will out, a secret will eventually be exposed.
    10. yell or scream bloody murder, a. to scream loudly in pain, fear, etc.
    b. to protest loudly and angrily: If I don't get a good raise I'm going to yell bloody murder.
    - Murder Definition | Definition of Murder at Dictionary.com

    Murder is always killing. Killing is not always murder under the law.

    An appeal to emotion on your part is a useless fallacy.
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    Re: Should Convicted Terrorists Be Executed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Murder is always killing. Killing is not always murder under the law.
    I like it!
    Are those your words?

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    Re: Should Convicted Terrorists Be Executed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I like it!
    Are those your words?
    No those are Obama's words.
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    Re: Should Convicted Terrorists Be Executed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    No those are Obama's words.
    No they are my words as far as I know. What does it have to do with President Obama?

    I am missing the joke and/or sarcasm ain't I?
    Last edited by Black Dog; 09-30-09 at 08:55 PM.
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    Re: Should Convicted Terrorists Be Executed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No they are my words as far as I know. What does it have to do with President Obama?

    I am missing the joke and/or sarcasm ain't I?
    I missed it too???

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    Re: Should Convicted Terrorists Be Executed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Murder is always killing. Killing is not always murder under the law.

    An appeal to emotion on your part is a useless fallacy.
    Hence my problem. It's okay for the government to extinguish life, but if we do it, it's murder.
    "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

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    Re: Should Convicted Terrorists Be Executed?

    I am not for the death penalty, but state sanctioned execution under rule of law is not murder.

    It is killing, but it is not murder. Murder is illegal killing, law sometimes sanctions killing, if it does, it is not murder.

    Abortion for instance.
    Last edited by JW Frogen; 10-01-09 at 01:29 AM.

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    Re: Should Convicted Terrorists Be Executed?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Hence my problem. It's okay for the government to extinguish life, but if we do it, it's murder.
    It depends on the circumstance. Killing in defense of one's person or in some states property is acceptable under the law. The law also understands accidents happen and people die hence manslaughter charges rather than murder.

    So your premise is flawed which leads to a flawed conclusion. People can certainly extinguish life under certain conditions just like government within the boundaries of the law.

    Killing is not always murder in the eyes of the law and society who makes the laws. In the end the government only has the rights the people allow.
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    Re: Should Convicted Terrorists Be Executed?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Hence my problem. It's okay for the government to extinguish life, but if we do it, it's murder.
    Then every member of our armed forces who has ever killed the enemy in combat would be a murderer because they carried out state sanctioned killing?
    Were the cops who killed the 2 bank robbers in the infamous LA shootout (with AK-47's) murderers?
    Last edited by Devil505; 10-01-09 at 06:46 AM.

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    Re: Should Convicted Terrorists Be Executed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I am missing the joke and/or sarcasm ain't I?
    Yes.






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