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Thread: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    Parents choose to bring their children into this world, and until those children become self-owning adults no one has higher authority over them than their parents. Not all families are perfect, but one does not choose what reality s\he is born into. Having to obey your parents in all things until you can be legally emancipated is a very small price to pay in exchange for being born.
    I do agree with the gist of this.
    Parents are the highest authority for a child or rather, should be.


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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    When somebodys credibility is shot, you can't blame others for being suspicious. She has been on and off of drugs for 30+ yrs. Every interview she gives, she says she is currently drug free, only to come back the following yr to say that she lied and that she was high on said interview she said she was clean for. Liars are not credible people! This happened as recently as last yr where she was high on an interview. Her dad is dead and can't defend himself, so it's her word against...well... no ones. I also don't see her a the classic incest victim. A child incest victim has no choice, has no where to go, and has a physical disadvantage. She had none of those disadvantages. The first encounter happened at 19, and she claims the consensual sex went on for 10 yrs?! This would be a good anti-drug infomercial. Stay off drugs, it could lead to sleeping with family members.
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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I do agree with the gist of this.
    Parents are the highest authority for a child or rather, should be.
    TO WHAT POINT? There are some behaviors that are beyond the pale: beating your child. Having sex with your child. Drugging your child with illegal drugs. Allowing your friends to have sex with your child. Selling your child.

    Good god. This is such a no-brainer.

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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i'm sorry, but that's just ridiculous. the practices we are discussing are not "family issues", they are barbaric practices that physically harm children.
    I'm a male who is unhappy about the fact that I was circumcised as a child, and many other decisions that my parents have made, but c'est la vie - those were their decisions to make. I of course recognize that female circumcision is much worse, but any bodily modification that doesn't interfere with the aforementioned natural rights (life and emancipation) is a parents' right. Here's an even more extreme example: if blind parents want to have blind children, that is to have them blinded surgically shortly after birth, even that is their right as parents!


    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    a father doesn't have a right to rape his daughter, and interfering with force is COMPLETELY justifiable. what would you propose, we picket his house?
    No, force is not justifiable, and, yes, and I would picket with you. Furthermore, ever-advancing information technology makes ostracism very effective. Would you shop at a store that employs a known pedophile?


    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    we are a nation of laws, and children are protected by those laws.
    Speak for yourself, I'm not a part of your "we". Laws that govern the human civilization are universal, and have nothing to do with nations. Cultures that fail to recognize natural law diminish over time, while the culture that treat on it the least have the competitive advantage.

    Your "government knows better than the parents" culture inevitably leads to out-of-control government and demographic free-fall! The former because trusting the government with oversight of education means it will always have greater control over public opinion than the electoral circus can ever affect government. And the latter because no one in their right mind wants to spend so much time, money, and energy raising little snitches for the state!

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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    TO WHAT POINT? There are some behaviors that are beyond the pale: beating your child. Having sex with your child. Drugging your child with illegal drugs. Allowing your friends to have sex with your child. Selling your child.

    Good god. This is such a no-brainer.
    Nah, you don't say.

    Those are illegal, ofc there is a bloody point or limit


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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Nah, you don't say.

    Those are illegal, ofc there is a bloody point or limit
    Not in Alex Libman's crazy ass world. See above comment...he would support the right of blind parents to have their children blinded after bith.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    Here's an even more extreme example: if blind parents want to have blind children, that is to have them blinded surgically shortly after birth, even that is their right as parents!


    koo koo.

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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    Here's an even more extreme example: if blind parents want to have blind children, that is to have them blinded surgically shortly after birth, even that is their right as parents!


    o.O


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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post


    o.O
    That's what I'm saying....holy hell.

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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    I'm a male who is unhappy about the fact that I was circumcised as a child, and many other decisions that my parents have made, but c'est la vie - those were their decisions to make. I of course recognize that female circumcision is much worse, but any bodily modification that doesn't interfere with the aforementioned natural rights (life and emancipation) is a parents' right. Here's an even more extreme example: if blind parents want to have blind children, that is to have them blinded surgically shortly after birth, even that is their right as parents!




    No, force is not justifiable, and, yes, and I would picket with you. Furthermore, ever-advancing information technology makes ostracism very effective. Would you shop at a store that employs a known pedophile?




    Speak for yourself, I'm not a part of your "we". Laws that govern the human civilization are universal, and have nothing to do with nations. Cultures that fail to recognize natural law diminish over time, while the culture that treat on it the least have the competitive advantage.

    Your "government knows better than the parents" culture inevitably leads to out-of-control government and demographic free-fall! The former because trusting the government with oversight of education means it will always have greater control over public opinion than the electoral circus can ever affect government. And the latter because no one in their right mind wants to spend so much time, money, and energy raising little snitches for the state!
    i think you're disturbed, actually, and i'm being restrained in my opinion. government clearly DOES know better than some parents, thank god.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    Look, I don't like the idea of parents making decisions regarding their children's health and well-being that I don't agree with, but I must set my emotions aside and yield to rational analysis. The emotions you're experiencing are justifiable, but misdirected - nature gave us those emotions to protect our own children, not violently interfere with the decisions made in other families!

    When you start making criminal laws that are based on emotion, you open yourself to all sorts of unintended consequences, including the those I've already mentioned - collapsing fertility rates. Today you might have the public opinion on your side, but tomorrow that same justification can be used to initiate aggression against you! Today it's child protective services, tomorrow - sharia law!
    Last edited by Alex Libman; 09-25-09 at 12:36 PM.

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