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Thread: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    I don't know if she's telling the truth, but I support her courage in speaking out about this.
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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    It must have really hurt a lot of people. She should have done something other than blab this story. It's not like he can defend himself. Is she selling a book?
    Yeah, god forbid she should tell the secret that has probably been her shame for all these years, and set herself free from it. Telling a secret is part of healing for victims of these kinds of crimes. And, the response here explains why so many of them keep these kinds of secrets for so long and self-medicate to deal with the emotional trauma.

    This is not HER shame. She's a VICTIM.

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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Yeah, god forbid she should tell the secret that has probably been her shame for all these years, and set herself free from it. Telling a secret is part of healing for victims of these kinds of crimes. And, the response here explains why so many of them keep these kinds of secrets for so long and self-medicate to deal with the emotional trauma.

    This is not HER shame. She's a VICTIM.

    What's the purpose in being open about it publically though, vs. in a professional therapy session?

    I mean, I have secrets that carry way less social stigma than incest, that I would never publically acknowledge.
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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    It may be cathartic for her and her readers, secrets, PM me, I will be as silent as the grave

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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Who in their right mind goes on national tv and admits to having consensual sex with him. Ok, you want to get something off your chest, go to a therapist. She said that she needed to 'get it out', but I'm quite sure that she could have ''gotten closure'' without going public. She still admits to getting stoned, and for this I think she just needs more drug money, hence this new 'out' book.

    Mackenzie Phillips: I had sex with musician dad John Phillips - CNN.com
    i wouldn't. she definitely needs help.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    What's the purpose in being open about it publically though, vs. in a professional therapy session?

    I mean, I have secrets that carry way less social stigma than incest, that I would never publically acknowledge.
    She may feel that by talking publicly about what happened to her, she makes it easier for other victims to get the help they need. Kind of like Betty Ford and breast cancer, and victims of domestic violence who talk publicly about their victimization in hopes that other women will get help if they are in similar situations. And, people who talk about mental illness/addiction in hopes of removing the stigma.

    You go public to help other people, to let them know that they aren't alone, and that there is help.

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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    I don't know if she's telling the truth, but I support her courage in speaking out about this.

    To answer the question posted in the thread title - that depends. I believe that parents should have far-reaching rights over their children, even including culturally subjective things like female circumcision, incest, religious brainwashing, and so on, as long as they don't interfere with the child's natural rights to life and to emancipation. That means the children will ultimately be able to decide for themselves if they have been violated and whether to expose their parents, in which case they'd obviously face near-universal ostracism.

    Trusting government intervention to stamp out incest is immoral, ineffective, and ultimately very destructive. Countless children are still being abused by their parents and other adults, including in the government-run "Child Protection Services", where all the smart pedophiles apply for their day job. Countless adults are prosecuted for alleged child abuse without the consent of the victim (and/or his/her parents/guardians) for that prosecution to take place (i.e. victimless crime). Countless adults decide not to have children because of the overbearing role the government is starting to play in family life, which can only lead to a demographic and economic collapse, as is already starting to play out in some of the more socialist European countries. Etc. The Anarcho-Capitalist approach that recognizes the rights of the parents, the child's right to emancipation, and relies on social pressure (i.e. ostracism) would be far more humane and far more effective.
    oh my. female circumcision is culturally subjective? i don't think so. how does THAT not interfere with a child's natural rights?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Yeah, god forbid she should tell the secret that has probably been her shame for all these years, and set herself free from it. Telling a secret is part of healing for victims of these kinds of crimes. And, the response here explains why so many of them keep these kinds of secrets for so long and self-medicate to deal with the emotional trauma.

    This is not HER shame. She's a VICTIM.
    This is not HER shame. She's a VICTIM.
    no doubt. but personally, i wouldn't do it publicly.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    She may feel that by talking publicly about what happened to her, she makes it easier for other victims to get the help they need. Kind of like Betty Ford and breast cancer, and victims of domestic violence who talk publicly about their victimization in hopes that other women will get help if they are in similar situations. And, people who talk about mental illness/addiction in hopes of removing the stigma.

    You go public to help other people, to let them know that they aren't alone, and that there is help.
    Its very sad you have to explain this to anyone Catz

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    Re: Would you tell the world you slept with your dad.

    Quote Originally Posted by B L Zeebub View Post
    Its very sad you have to explain this to anyone Catz
    I think that people just don't think about how much shame victims in these situations feel. No matter how clear it is that it absolutely wasn't their fault, they still feel guilt and a need to cover up the damage that was done to them. I think this woman is incredibly brave. She has to know that she's going to be attacked and disbelieved, and she was still strong enough to risk that to tell her story so other people can hopefully learn from it.

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