View Poll Results: Would you support a health care bill without a public option?

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  • Yes, a public option is what is wrong with current reform plans

    8 14.81%
  • Yes, a partial reform bill is better than no reform bill

    7 12.96%
  • Yes, I like reform, but not a public option at least now

    6 11.11%
  • No, no reform is needed

    8 14.81%
  • No, no public option makes the bill not worth passing

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    Yet Another Health Care poll

    Simple question: Would you support a health care bill without a public health insurance option?

    Poll is up, please read the options and vote for the one you most agree with.

    Edit: I was not clear enough, so let me be clear what I was getting at. Is a public option, for or against, a deciding factor in health care reform. In other words, would you support reform without a public option, or would you oppose reform without a public option? This is meant to be a general question, not in specifics of what those reforms would be.
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    Re: Yet Another Health Care poll

    Other. Same thing I always say in these polls. It depends. If there is significant reform and regulating in with private insurance, I do not know that a public option is needed. If there is not, then I would support one.
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    Re: Yet Another Health Care poll

    Well it would all depend. If we're going some route in which we will be requiring people to get health insurance, there has to be some protection against collusion. Either some form of regulation on the insurance companies to ensure that there is no collusion or some form of public option. The problem with the public option is that it could be used as a method to undercut the insurance companies and drive the private insurers out of business. So either way, things need to be done to prevent perversion of the system against the benefits and necessities of the People.
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    Re: Yet Another Health Care poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Simple question: Would you support a health care bill without a public health insurance option?

    Poll is up, please read the options and vote for the one you most agree with.
    Yes. At the present time, the odds are against a public option, but there is no need to give up. A bill with a public option would be best, but if we can't get that then there is no reason to sabotage the whole thing. There are plenty of reforms that almost everyone (except Goobieman ) can agree on.

    If there aren't enough votes for a public option, hopefully there are enough votes for a robust non-profit co-op plan and a trigger mechanism for a public option.
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    Re: Yet Another Health Care poll

    I was not clear enough in my OP, so let me be clear what I was getting at. Is a public option, for or against, a deciding factor in health care reform. In other words, would you support reform without a public option, or would you oppose reform without a public option? This is meant to be a general question, not in specifics of what those reforms would be.

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    Re: Yet Another Health Care poll

    Anything less than a public option will be like Bush's Drug bill,
    it'll be just a giveaway to the insurance co's.

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    Re: Yet Another Health Care poll

    As others have said, it depends entirely on what those reforms are. But yes, I think some reforms are needed.
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    Re: Yet Another Health Care poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The problem with the public option is that it could be used as a method to undercut the insurance companies and drive the private insurers out of business.
    I think that as long as the public option is covering its expenses, it's OK to undercut the private companies. The idea of reform is to help the American people and our economy...not necessarily the insurance companies. It might drive the for-profit companies out of business, but they would be replaced with private non-profit companies if the public option failed in some critical aspect.

    Think of it like education. We have both private schools and public schools. Back in the 1800s, public education did indeed drive a lot of for-profit schools out of business. But non-profit private schools quickly sprang up to compete with the government.
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    Re: Yet Another Health Care poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    Anything less than a public option will be like Bush's Drug bill,
    it'll be just a giveaway to the insurance co's.
    This is why I say "it depends". The regulations and reforms would have to be pretty stringent, but if they were, I could go without the public option. The reforms I would need to see would NOT be a giveaway to the insurance industry. If it were, it wouldn't be enough to convince me.
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    Re: Yet Another Health Care poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    Anything less than a public option will be like Bush's Drug bill,
    it'll be just a giveaway to the insurance co's.
    I strongly disagree. The main purposes of health care reform, as I see them, are 1) Cost control, 2) Universal coverage, 3) Ending insurance company abuses, 4) Portability.

    Goals #2 and #3 (and possibly #4) could be accomplished with or without a public option. Goal #1 probably cannot, but if we can't get it, that's no reason to abandon the other goals.
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