View Poll Results: At what age should people be legally allowed to buy alcohol?

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Thread: What should the drinking age be?

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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What about for those who choose not to risk themselves in service to country?
    Then **** those pussies who refuse to serve the military....Just kidding. I believe the drinking age should be lowered to 18 for everyone.

    Although a good compromise would be 18 year olds in the military, let them show a military ID to prove they are in the military, military ID's these days have actual chips and a barcode in them, so its not like some dumbass with a laminating machine can make a military ID.
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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    The legal drinking age never stopped me from getting my alcohol.

    Last year I walked into a gas station, got a 6 pack of Corona Extra, slammed $20 on the counter and said "Keep the change."

    I stood there for a few seconds to give the cashier a chance to pull out her shot gun from behind the counter and unload on me before I walked out the door, but she was a kind lady.

    The look on her face was like "hmm ok... I never seen that happen before."

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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    The statistics specifically get rid of other factors when they admit that even though teen drunk driving has decreased by 60% from the increased drinking age, only around 16% of it is due to the change in policy.

    I sourced the link where the information from the study is, if that is what you mean.

    The study did conclude that 44% of the reductions were from those other factors.

    I have never heard that when sourcing a study, the information on how the study was carried out also needs to be shown :P

    You can still disagree on the grounds of freedome to drink, but the statisitcs are at least solid for this discussion.
    In many cases such as these, where the organization has a conflict in interest to provide statistical analysis that goes against their belief system, i am ever curious as to the methodology used. More specifically, the weights used as both determinants and the specific quantitative measures.

    Strictly speaking, it is not at all unreasonable to believe that they would be more willing to show links to studies that confirm their ideology.

    Not that i am saying they are wrong by any stretch, but are more or less geared to put the blame on alcohol, when of course the blame has to be shared with the person(s) consuming it. Remember, the alcohol did not make the teenager drink it, therefore natural questions on the rationality, education, police enforcement, etc... are going to surface. And since the studies are not entirely disclosed, i will have doubts.
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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    I definitely think the age should be lowered to 18. There should not be a two different ages on adulthood. A person should come into adulthood with the full privileges and responsibilities that bestowing adulthood entails.

    From my own personal observations, I believe that most of the people who would wait til they're 21 to drink are the ones who wouldn't be drinking and driving anyway.

    The ability to drink alcohol in many states is still available to the person before 21 in the form of exceptions to the law for religious and/or family-allowed purposes on private property. Only about 16 states and DC don't have any exceptions.

    Also, I know the Navy's policy is overall whatever the country's laws are that you are in. A CO is allowed to restrict consumption to 21 for his command though. And I think the Marines recently went to 21 no matter where you are, but it might have just been something they were considering. At least on my ship, everyone on board was allowed to participate in beer days when we got them no matter what age we were since we were in international waters. Personally, I would think that it would suck to be told that you couldn't have alcohol during a designated beer day just because you're not of age, especially considering there are no minimum age restrictions on the jobs that we perform once you are in the military.

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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Absolutely. I agree. However, there is always going to be an "arbitrary" age. If you are considered for all intents and purposes of being an adult at 18, then there is really no reason to say "yeah..but...you are not adult enough to gamble or consume alcohol".
    18 is when, in general, the brain is "developed" and rational, logical thinking begins... psychological speaking. It is the last of the cognitive developmental stages that ends in adulthood.
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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    I'm okay with the drinking age being either 16 or 18. 21 is inconsistent with our other laws, such as voting and military service.

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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    Depends on the culture of the state in question. Some are civilized enough to not need limits, others, like my own are quite backwards when it comes to alcohol. In such countries I would probably go for something like 20.
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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    My opinion: With the extension of adolesence and the delay of true adulthood that has occurred in the last couple generations, I think any changes should be directed at delaying rights and privliges, not making them happen earlier.

    With regards to the argument that "if you can be drafted and can vote, you should be able to drink," I think we should make it all at a higher age.. 21 for all three, at least.

    With longer and longer schooling required, people dont really become adults until well into their 20's. Just consider the stats: just 2 generations ago the average age of getting a full time job and getting married was about 19 or 20..now, its about 27. That is saying something for our maturing process and what the role in society should be for late teen's and early 20-somethings.
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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    Quote Originally Posted by KillerAngel View Post
    My opinion: With the extension of adolesence and the delay of true adulthood that has occurred in the last couple generations, I think any changes should be directed at delaying rights and privliges, not making them happen earlier.

    With regards to the argument that "if you can be drafted and can vote, you should be able to drink," I think we should make it all at a higher age.. 21 for all three, at least.

    With longer and longer schooling required, people dont really become adults until well into their 20's. Just consider the stats: just 2 generations ago the average age of getting a full time job and getting married was about 19 or 20..now, its about 27. That is saying something for our maturing process and what the role in society should be for late teen's and early 20-somethings.

    However, unfortuantly our military would not be able to exist very well today if it could not enlist soldiers at an age of 18. There is constantly a shortage of soldiers as it is, so we can't afford to only have completely mature soldiers.


    I don't have too much disagreement with individuals voting at age 21, but since they could be soldiers at age 18 for the reasons I stated above, that is then problematic.

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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    Quote Originally Posted by KillerAngel View Post
    My opinion: With the extension of adolesence and the delay of true adulthood that has occurred in the last couple generations, I think any changes should be directed at delaying rights and privliges, not making them happen earlier.
    This would only serve to delay adolescence further into the late 20s. Which is not, I suspect, what you'd like to see happen here.

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