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Thread: What should the drinking age be?

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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    I can agree on right infringement reduction.



    First and foremost, drinking is not legal for teenagers, therefore it is impossible to make such a long leap. Of course we can use statistics from previous era's, yet that is not an equal relationship so a rather large amount of controls would have to be made to control for the differences.
    The statistics specifically get rid of other factors when they admit that even though teen drunk driving has decreased by 60% from the increased drinking age, only around 16% of it is due to the change in policy.

    IMHO, MADD's various studies are flawed. Reason be, they seem to be supportive of studies that heavily weight the age variable, when a natural reduction of drunk driving might have more to do with increased enforcement, education, and plain common sense. Since i have no link to the actual studies cited, i am only speculating.
    I sourced the link where the information from the study is, if that is what you mean.

    The study did conclude that 44% of the reductions were from those other factors.

    I have never heard that when sourcing a study, the information on how the study was carried out also needs to be shown :P

    You can still disagree on the grounds of freedome to drink, but the statisitcs are at least solid for this discussion.

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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    Any age at which Doctors can prove that damage is excessive compared to average adult.


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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    Teen drunk drivers also contribute to harm other individuals who aren't drunk on the road. (my source has information about that claim as well) So by keeping the drinking age at 18, we would be depriving some of those people their lives even though they did not consume alcohol themselves.
    I never called for allowing teens to drink in public. Only legal adults and kids at home with parental consent. Madd stats are very flawed. Finnally our legal system is based on punishing crimes that already have been commited or are imminent. Are we to punish people who show signs that they may become violent in future years.

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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    Wine and beer at 16, hard liquor at 18 or whenever the legal majority age happens to be.

    We grew up with parents and grand parents spiking our lemonade with a splash of red wine at meal times. There's not a single heavy drinker among us to this day.
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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Wine and beer at 16, hard liquor at 18 or whenever the legal majority age happens to be.

    We grew up with parents and grand parents spiking our lemonade with a splash of red wine at meal times. There's not a single heavy drinker among us to this day.
    Not a bad idea. Parents allowing moderate drinking at a younger ages will really attack the issue of drinking to excess. Arbitrary laws will not

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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post

    What do you think? What should the drinking age be? You can answer the poll from the perspective of a nationwide law or a state law, whichever you prefer.
    I think it should be 18. IF you are old enough to die for you your country and old enough to vote then you should be old enough to drink.
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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think it should be 18. IF you are old enough to die for you your country and old enough to vote then you should be old enough to drink.
    What about for those who choose not to risk themselves in service to country?

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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What about for those who choose not to risk themselves in service to country?
    At 18 you register for the draft, which means you can be drafted against your will. So theoretically every 18 year old (or every 18 year old male, since females don't register for the draft) could be asked to die for their country. If we're prepared to ask that of an 18 year old, then they are old enough to drink.

    I also agree with other posters here, that if we culturally made alcohol less of a big deal and not such a forbiden fruit to teens, we'd have a lot less problems with teenage drinking.
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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    My argument is that people who are legally adults should be treated as such. If an 18 year old gets drunk but doesn't hassle anyone or drive, why is it any of the government's business? Our legal system isn't based on the possiblity of someone commiting a crime in the future.
    Let's assume that adding 3 years to the drinking age really did prevent many drunk driving accidents.

    We're talking about a policy which saved lives then. You'd need a very good reason to say that we should change something like that. Your reason is that everything should fall in line with a legal age of adulthood, which is an arbitrary line to draw anyways. I do not think we should let more people die just to preserve an arbitrary line.

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    Re: What should the drinking age be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Let's assume that adding 3 years to the drinking age really did prevent many drunk driving accidents.

    We're talking about a policy which saved lives then. You'd need a very good reason to say that we should change something like that. Your reason is that everything should fall in line with a legal age of adulthood, which is an arbitrary line to draw anyways. I do not think we should let more people die just to preserve an arbitrary line.
    No, let's not assume. Let's provide credible evidence to support our views instead...

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