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    Are we becoming a nation of incivility

    Are we becoming a nation of incivility?

    First we had the Palin crowd shouting things like "Kill him" in regards to Barack Obama.

    Then we had the folk that showed up at town hall meetings, yelling and disrupting.

    Now we have Joe Wilson shouting out during the President's address to Congress, Serena Williams fighting with the line judge and Kayne West interrupting the VMA awards.

    Are we seeing a new rise of incivility in America today?
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    Re: Are we becoming a nation of incivility

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Are we becoming a nation of incivility?

    First we had the Palin crowd shouting things like "Kill him" in regards to Barack Obama.

    Then we had the folk that showed up at town hall meetings, yelling and disrupting.

    Now we have Joe Wilson shouting out during the President's address to Congress, Serena Williams fighting with the line judge and Kayne West interrupting the VMA awards.

    Are we seeing a new rise of incivility in America today?
    Yea, this all started as soon as Obama got into the White House. There was no incivility from the left while Bush was in office...none at all...

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    Re: Are we becoming a nation of incivility

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Yea, this all started as soon as Obama got into the White House. There was no incivility from the left while Bush was in office...none at all...
    hehe.


    To the OP, we're a nation of "me-firsts"...


    Everyone in this nation is looking out for their own interests (I can't say I blame them)... but they're willing to do some pretty ****ty things to achieve their ends.

    I think of it like this... You notice how people behave in traffic? If they behave in traffic in such a way to people they absolutely don't know... for such small rewards.. How do you think they'll behave when larger personal rewards are possible?

    Basically, I've given up on the population as a whole.
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Are we becoming a nation of incivility

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Yea, this all started as soon as Obama got into the White House. There was no incivility from the left while Bush was in office...none at all...
    Now there's a strawman if I ever saw one!!! There was no claim that there was no incivility while Bush was in office.


    Interestingly, Republican pollster and consultant Frank Luntz, is releasing a new book on the topic and he emphatically says 'Yes'. The American public now, compared to 2000, is ruder and more insulting:


    Luntz Book Examines Americans' Anger


    ... The book is a compendium of all that Luntz has discovered about us since 2000. There are the sexy details: About 25 percent of American adults have taken part in a threesome. And there are the not-so-sexy details: Some 14 percent of American adults do crossword puzzles in their free time.

    And then thereís the ugly detail: Luntz says heís never seen anything like the anger heís seeing now. Itís not only coarsening public life; itís changing the nature of his job, too.

    more ...

    Luntz book examines Americans' anger - Daniel Libit

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    Re: Are we becoming a nation of incivility

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Yea, this all started as soon as Obama got into the White House. There was no incivility from the left while Bush was in office...none at all...
    of course there was.......and it all started in the clinton admin. ;-)

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Are we becoming a nation of incivility

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Now there's a strawman if I ever saw one!!! There was no claim that there was no incivility while Bush was in office.
    Do you know what the word "becoming" means? I don't think you do...

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    Re: Are we becoming a nation of incivility

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    of course there was.......and it all started in the clinton admin. ;-)
    Precisely my point. Incivility has been part and parcel of American politics long before Obama entered office. It's hardly a recent phenomenon, as the OP would have you believe.

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    Re: Are we becoming a nation of incivility

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Do you know what the word "becoming" means? I don't think you do...

    Do you ?


    Instead of incivility being the rude exception, it's becoming the norm. As Luntz says, he's never seen anything like the anger he's seeing now.

    It's noticeable, remarkable, and deplorable. That's me, not Luntz
    Last edited by jackalope; 09-15-09 at 11:21 AM.

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    Re: Are we becoming a nation of incivility

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Do you ?
    I sure do, hence my earlier poignant / sarcastic remarks concerning the absurdity of the OP, which comically suggested incivility in politics is a recent phenomenon.

    Instead of incivility being the rude exception, it's becoming the norm.
    Yea, the left's incivility towards Bush was just the exception...

    Anyway, that's not what the OP was suggesting. DD was trying to imply that this incivility is a recent phenomenon, which is laughably absurd.

    As Luntz says, he's never seen anything like the anger he's seeing now.

    It's noticeable, remarkable, and deplorable. That's me, not Luntz
    I don't give a rat's ass what this Luntz guy says.

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    Re: Are we becoming a nation of incivility

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Are we becoming a nation of incivility?
    It seems that way to me where politics are concerned. I'd guess that the animosity has always been there between the Left and the Right, but the difference now seems to be the cheerleaders who are advocating it as a means of discrediting the opposing POV.

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