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Are we becoming a nation of incivility

Are we becoming a nation of incivility?

  • Yes

    Votes: 16 59.3%
  • No

    Votes: 11 40.7%

  • Total voters
    27
I remember very vividly entire websites being dedicated to Bush's fascism.

I remember very vividly the protestors and their references to Satan and Hitler.

I remember very vividly the cries of war-mongering and imperialism.

I remember very vividly a town wanting to name a sewage treatment plant after Bush.

I remember very vividly the Cindy Sheehan's and the Code Pinks.

No, Madam, is not any worse than it was before. Bush was eviscerated most vociferously by the left. It seems you are suffering from selective amnesia. Allow me, a most consistent individual, to accurately gauge the political atmosphere for you.
no, thank you. i remember everything you mentioned.

i DO NOT remember a congressman calling a president a liar during an address to congress. i don NOT remember cries of "kill him" at a presidential rally, and i do NOT remember people calling our first lady a gorilla. do you?
 
Funny how that's all stopped now that Obama is in office..

You'd think it'd continue, as he supports both of the Wars.
he has to deal with both of the wars. what spin.
 
no, thank you. i remember everything you mentioned.

i DO NOT remember a congressman calling a president a liar during an address to congress. i don NOT remember cries of "kill him" at a presidential rally, and i do NOT remember people calling our first lady a gorilla. do you?

I remember things of the same nature, yes.
 
Are we becoming a nation of incivility? No, we have been on this path for a long time. Is it worse now than it has been? I suspect so, though it's hard to judge properly.

I find interesting that every time this topic comes up, our friends on the right point out when those on the left did such things, and never manage to actually condemn those of their own who commit outrageous acts.
 
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no, thank you. i remember everything you mentioned.

i DO NOT remember a congressman calling a president a liar during an address to congress. i don NOT remember cries of "kill him" at a presidential rally, and i do NOT remember people calling our first lady a gorilla. do you?

No one called her a gorilla. I do believe they compare her and that goofy hairstyle to Zira, who was a chimp.

And Laura Bush was called pretty similar things. I remember one cartoon comparing her vacant stare to that of an ostrich. Which I found just as funny as Michelle being compared to Zira from Planet of the Apes.

It's funny cuz its true.
 
Are we becoming a nation of incivility? No, we have been on this path for a long time. Is it worse not than it has been? I suspect so, though it's hard to judge properly.

I find interesting that every time this topic comes up, our friends on the right point out when those on the left did such things, and never manage to actually condemn those of their own who commit outrageous acts.

It's wrong to yell "kill him" in regards to Obama, I agree. Not sure why I would have to condemn such a thing as I am not a Palin supporter or a Republican.

Calling Obama a liar (which he is) didn't really bother me, just as the Dems booing of Bush didn't really bother me, so there's no inconsistency there on my part.

Disrupting a town hall meeting is wrong. Everyone should remain calm and civil towards one another. I just figured that was assumed.

Of course, this all assumes I'm part of "the right", which I don't think I am.
 
no, thank you. i remember everything you mentioned.

i DO NOT remember a congressman calling a president a liar during an address to congress. i don NOT remember cries of "kill him" at a presidential rally, and i do NOT remember people calling our first lady a gorilla. do you?

Ummmmm, how is any of this worse than calling Bush a:

Nazi
War-monger
Imperialist
Satan
Fascist

???
 
Are we becoming a nation of incivility? No, we have been on this path for a long time. Is it worse not than it has been? I suspect so, though it's hard to judge properly.

I find interesting that every time this topic comes up, our friends on the right point out when those on the left did such things, and never manage to actually condemn those of their own who commit outrageous acts.

Only five posts above yours ...

Psychoclown said:
That doesn't make it right of course. I hated over the top partisan hackery and insanity when the left was doing it and I hate it just as much now that the right is doing it.
 
I remember things of the same nature, yes.
really, when and where? on the floor of the house, being called a liar? laura bush being called a gorilla? someone at a kerry rally shouting to kill bush?

really?
 
Are we becoming a nation of incivility? No, we have been on this path for a long time. Is it worse now than it has been? I suspect so, though it's hard to judge properly.

I find interesting that every time this topic comes up, our friends on the right point out when those on the left did such things, and never manage to actually condemn those of their own who commit outrageous acts.
i have no issues with vocal debate, or even heated debate. calling someone a liar during a presidential address is not even close to debate.
 
i have no issues with vocal debate, or even heated debate. calling someone a liar during a presidential address is not even close to debate.

What about booing him?
 
Are we becoming a nation of incivility?

First we had the Palin crowd shouting things like "Kill him" in regards to Barack Obama.

Then we had the folk that showed up at town hall meetings, yelling and disrupting.

Now we have Joe Wilson shouting out during the President's address to Congress, Serena Williams fighting with the line judge and Kayne West interrupting the VMA awards.

Are we seeing a new rise of incivility in America today?

What a fascinatingly false statement. I am amused how you ignore the Liberal Democrat incivility starting with the Bork hearings, the Clarence Thomas hearings, the farcical claims that Bush stole an election, the booing of Bush during his delivery of the 2005 State of the Union and the demogoguery of Democrats against their political opponents in the court of Public opinion.

Why do you suppose that you ignored all that incivility? Got bias and hypocrisy here?

Anyone with even a modicum of intellectual honesty can go back to the Bork hearings and historically see that the party that invests itself in the most outrageous uncivil partisan behavior happens to rest mostly with the Democrat Party.

So my answer is "YES", we are becoming less civil thanks to the efforts of a Party whose Socialist ideals cannot stand on their own and uses the strategy of demoagoguing and impugning the character of their political opponents in the court of public opinion rather than have an honest truthful debate on political ideals, goals and philosophy.

But the notion that your reasoning supports my yes vote would definitely require the willful suspension of disbelief, of truth, of honesty and willful denial.

My favorite speech was this one which pretty much sums up the Hypocrisy of Democrats and Liberals these days:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CzteDucRHo"]YouTube - Hillary Clinton - I am Sick & Tired (Right to Protest)[/ame]
 
Now there's a strawman if I ever saw one!!! There was no claim that there was no incivility while Bush was in office.


Interestingly, Republican pollster and consultant Frank Luntz, is releasing a new book on the topic and he emphatically says 'Yes'. The American public now, compared to 2000, is ruder and more insulting:

Oh gee, if Luntz says it, then it must be so! :rofl
 
really, when and where? on the floor of the house, being called a liar? laura bush being called a gorilla? someone at a kerry rally shouting to kill bush?

really?

Yes, really. They boo'd him and loudly murmured about him when he gave speeches. They called him war chimp. Pictures depicting him hanging by a noose were not uncommon. You are just sensitive about it now because he's "your guy".
 
of course there was.......and it all started in the clinton admin. ;-)

Yes, the Clinton Administrations efforts to lie, to distort the efforts of the previous administration and ignore the threat of terrorism and impugn Republicans while they balanced the Federal budget for the very first time in five decades was equally hypocritical.
 
No one called her a gorilla. I do believe they compare her and that goofy hairstyle to Zira, who was a chimp.

And Laura Bush was called pretty similar things. I remember one cartoon comparing her vacant stare to that of an ostrich. Which I found just as funny as Michelle being compared to Zira from Planet of the Apes.

It's funny cuz its true.
no, i'll find you the link. another great sc politician. and really, shouldn't our sensibilities preclude references to gorillas when a black man is our president?


GOP activist DePass apologizes after joking on Facebook that gorilla is related to Michelle Obama
 
Yes, really. They boo'd him and loudly murmured about him when he gave speeches. They called him war chimp. Pictures depicting him hanging by a noose were not uncommon. You are just sensitive about it now because he's "your guy".
they did not call him a liar during a presidential address.
 
no, thank you. i remember everything you mentioned.

i DO NOT remember a congressman calling a president a liar during an address to congress. i don NOT remember cries of "kill him" at a presidential rally, and i do NOT remember people calling our first lady a gorilla. do you?

Perhaps it was because no other President has stood on that podium and spewed so many lies to so many people before?

My favorite lie; I will not sign any bill that adds one dime to the Deficit. I am perfectly willing to take bets on that one right now.

The only thing more amusing will be how Democrats redefine what is meant by "adding to the deficit." :rofl
 
no, i'll find you the link. another great sc politician. and really, shouldn't our sensibilities preclude references to gorillas when a black man is our president?


GOP activist DePass apologizes after joking on Facebook that gorilla is related to Michelle Obama

Well they didn't really preclude references to chimps when a big eared white fella was our president so why is Obama now off limits to the same jokes most every politician is subject to?

But you guys keep throwing out that race card...what you're going to accomplish is making an intelligenct and progressive political leader diminished to having his only legacy being that he was the first black man. That's gonna help you guys out a whole lot...LOL

I hadn't seen that about Michelle. What I have consistently seen is this:

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That's disgusting and not funny at all.
 
Are we becoming a nation of incivility? No, we have been on this path for a long time. Is it worse now than it has been? I suspect so, though it's hard to judge properly.

I find interesting that every time this topic comes up, our friends on the right point out when those on the left did such things, and never manage to actually condemn those of their own who commit outrageous acts.

The Democrats continue to lower the bar; why is it only pertinent if we condemn our own, when are you going to stand up and condemn your own for calling Bush a terrorist, a liar and going to the outrageous extent of claiming he knew the 9-11 attack was coming and did nothing.

When will you condemn the House judiciary committee when it conducted a kangaroo hearing claiming Bush was responsible for the deaths of 4,000 American Troops by lying us into a war of choice and should be impeached for it.

I am amused when Liberals and Democrats think that condemnation is a ONE WAY street here.

Carry on; I find the patent hypocrisy of Democrats quite telling and amusing. :2wave:
 
Well they didn't really preclude references to chimps when a big eared white fella was our president so why is Obama now off limits to the same jokes most every politician is subject to?

But you guys keep throwing out that race card...what you're going to accomplish is making an intelligenct and progressive political leader diminished to having his only legacy being that he was the first black man. That's gonna help you guys out a whole lot...LOL

I hadn't seen that about Michelle. What I have consistently seen is this:

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jokes aren't off limits, racial jokes should be off limits. but that's just me, and millions of other civilized people.
 
That's disgusting and not funny at all.

Then write your congressman or your favorite mod. :shrug:

I find it hilarious. Just like I find this hilarious:

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and

laura-bush.jpg


And especially:

brimley-cat.jpg


Pretty much that whole site is hilarious.

But like I said, if you don't like it, feel free to go on the internet and complain about it.
 
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