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Are we becoming a nation of incivility

Are we becoming a nation of incivility?

  • Yes

    Votes: 16 59.3%
  • No

    Votes: 11 40.7%

  • Total voters
    27
How about we just put it this way:

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Whoever doesn't see the plain, non-racist humor here has a baseball bat-sized stick up their ass and really needs to lighten up -- for their own good as well as everyone else's.

The two pictures don't look very alike, requiring some kind of negative feeling toward the person to bridge in the gap, although that wouldn't necessarily have to be racism.

The only thing remotely similar is the hair, and that is a stretch.
 
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:roll: Why would it "require a negative feeling"? That's absurd.

The entire joke is the similarity between the pictures. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not meant to be an insult, and it' s certainly not racist.
 
What a fascinatingly false statement. I am amused how you ignore the Liberal Democrat incivility starting with the Bork hearings, the Clarence Thomas hearings, the farcical claims that Bush stole an election, the booing of Bush during his delivery of the 2005 State of the Union and the demogoguery of Democrats against their political opponents in the court of Public opinion.

Why do you suppose that you ignored all that incivility? Got bias and hypocrisy here?

Anyone with even a modicum of intellectual honesty can go back to the Bork hearings and historically see that the party that invests itself in the most outrageous uncivil partisan behavior happens to rest mostly with the Democrat Party.

So my answer is "YES", we are becoming less civil thanks to the efforts of a Party whose Socialist ideals cannot stand on their own and uses the strategy of demoagoguing and impugning the character of their political opponents in the court of public opinion rather than have an honest truthful debate on political ideals, goals and philosophy.

But the notion that your reasoning supports my yes vote would definitely require the willful suspension of disbelief, of truth, of honesty and willful denial.

My favorite speech was this one which pretty much sums up the Hypocrisy of Democrats and Liberals these days:

YouTube - Hillary Clinton - I am Sick & Tired (Right to Protest)


I'm only four pages into reading this and it seems like over 1/2 of the posts are misconstruing my OP.

Yes....there was incivility before Obama. Yes.....there is incivility from the left as well as the right.

The idea for this post came from the recent USA Today article that speaks about the "Rise" of incivility in our culture.

Yes....I didn't cite examples from Bush or Clinton or even before because I was focusing on events that have occurred in the last year.
It would only make sense that due to who is in office, that the focus would be on the right being uncivil to the left, but if you didn't notice, I included examples of Kayne West and Serene Williams....are you trying to say that they are right against left as well?

The focus of the USA today article is not the incivility didn't exist before Obama....but as a nation it is becoming more and more prevalent.
I am looking to see if people agree or disagree that it is becoming more acceptable and more prevelant today than it has been in the past.

I guess in all fairness, I should have phrased the question better...to read:


"Are we as a nation becoming more and more uncivil?"
 
A corollary question is, "Are we becoming a nation of hypersensitive, overreacting be-octhes?" I think the two go hand-in-hand, actually.
 
"Are we as a nation becoming more and more uncivil?"


Yes, and you are one of the regular offenders to that civility. Honestly I don't know where you found a sufficient quantity of brass to even address the issue of civility with a straight face.
 
Are we becoming a nation of incivility?

First we had the Palin crowd shouting things like "Kill him" in regards to Barack Obama.

Then we had the folk that showed up at town hall meetings, yelling and disrupting.

Now we have Joe Wilson shouting out during the President's address to Congress, Serena Williams fighting with the line judge and Kayne West interrupting the VMA awards.

Are we seeing a new rise of incivility in America today?

This is hillarious, coming from a Super Libbo.

Where were you folks between 2001 and 2008? Still in grade school?
 
This poll is about extremism and anger, rather than specifically civility, but it seems relevant:


Extremism in New Jersey

We've been uncovering a remarkable level of anger toward Barack Obama in a lot of our recent polling so for New Jersey we decided to go a step further in determining how extreme some people's feelings are about the President and asked respondents if they think he is the Anti-Christ.

(snip... )

Combine the birthers and the truthers and you've got 37% of the electorate. And the 3% of voters who really need to get their heads checked are the ones who are both birthers and truthers.

more ...

Public Policy Polling: Extremism in New Jersey
 
This poll is about extremism and anger, rather than specifically civility, but it seems relevant:
Left out this part, spanky:
The extremism in New Jersey isn't limited to the right though. 19% of voters in the state, including 32% of Democrats, think that George W. Bush had prior knowledge of 9/11.
:rofl Yeah, there's enough idiocy to go around.
 
Left out this part, spanky::rofl Yeah, there's enough idiocy to go around.


No, I didn't spanky. I was limited to two paragraphs b/c of fair use. And I included a paragraph about truthers and birthers .... which is right and left.



:doh
 
Um, yeah, you actually did. Scroll up. :roll:


whatever.


I am reminded of my curiosity regarding your debating skills. Since I've never seen anything but interjections and basement posts.
 
This poll is about extremism and anger, rather than specifically civility, but it seems relevant:


Extremism in New Jersey

We've been uncovering a remarkable level of anger toward Barack Obama in a lot of our recent polling so for New Jersey we decided to go a step further in determining how extreme some people's feelings are about the President and asked respondents if they think he is the Anti-Christ.

(snip... )

Combine the birthers and the truthers and you've got 37% of the electorate. And the 3% of voters who really need to get their heads checked are the ones who are both birthers and truthers.

more ...

Public Policy Polling: Extremism in New Jersey







I was just reading the blog on the PPP site. Interesting blurb about how they came up with the anti-Christ question:


Origin of the Anti-Christ question


(snip ... )

We put it at the very end of the New Jersey poll, even after the demographic questions, because we just didn't know how people would take it. It is definitely the strangest question we have ever asked. But very few respondents- less than 3%-hung up and didn't answer that last one.

We'll be honest. It took about six or seven takes to record that question with a straight face and without busting out in laughter at the ridiculousness of it. But I think the answer does tell us something about the level of extremism out there and how far some people are taking their hatred of President Obama.

more ...


:lamo:
 
whatever.


I am reminded of my curiosity regarding your debating skills. Since I've never seen anything but interjections and basement posts.
So the rational, non-partisan thing to do would be to resort to ad hominem. I'll make a note of that.
 
I question your use of "becoming."

Anyone remember the congress members back in the 1800s who had a fist fight (with canes) on the Senate (?) floor?

And really, words of incivility are much toned down from duels to the death.
 
Moderator's Warning:
Kind of ironic with the thread title and all, but let's try to keep things civil and not troll the thread - you know who you are.
 
George Washington was probably as big a **** talker as anybody else today. Only difference is we'll never know for sure because sadly C-SPAN wasn't around back then. The notion that we are 'becoming' a nation of incivility is ridiculous. We've been a nation of incivility. When people in some states were making Jim Crow laws. That was uncivil. When the army shot unarmed hippy kids at Kent State. That was uncivil. When we decided to put Japanese people in interment camps because of where they were from. That was uncivil. In reality our country has been uncivil since a bunch of farmers went off on the British with pitchforks.
 
Man, I wish they sold tickets to the James Searle-Charles Thomson Senate floor fist/cane fight.

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Thomson]Charles Thomson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

Becoming Uncivil?

America has never been a civil nation. Get over it.
 
Yes, in my opinion.
A yes vote, and I hope I am wrong.
The problem is due to our profit driven media, boorish behavior is more news-worthy than good, normal behavior.
We need better media
 
George Washington was probably as big a **** talker as anybody else today. Only difference is we'll never know for sure because sadly C-SPAN wasn't around back then. The notion that we are 'becoming' a nation of incivility is ridiculous. We've been a nation of incivility. When people in some states were making Jim Crow laws. That was uncivil. When the army shot unarmed hippy kids at Kent State. That was uncivil. When we decided to put Japanese people in interment camps because of where they were from. That was uncivil. In reality our country has been uncivil since a bunch of farmers went off on the British with pitchforks.

This is sad but true.
But what is saying that this uncivilized behavior must always be ?
Tradition ?
Fear of change ?
 
When John Adams was President, Pres and VP were either elected separately or represented whomever got the most electoral votes and who got the next greatest. I don't recall which. John Adams was George Washington's VP. Thomas Jefferson and John Adams were dire enemies, probably because Adams defended the Brit soldiers who were responsible for the Boston Massacre. Adams was the next Pres with Jefferson as his VP. During his entire tenure as VP, Jefferson lambasted Adams in the press and at every public occassion. Apparently the truthfulness or personal nature of the attacks didn't deter Jefferson. Jefferson, of course, succeeded Adams and his VP was Aaron Burr. The legislature actually decided who was Pres because they both had the same number of electoral votes. You probably remember Aaron Burr for killing Alexander Hamilton in a duel.

Civil then? Think Not! Civil now? Much better thank you!

IMO, people do seem to be a little more sensitive now though.
 
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