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Thread: If Health Care Reform Passes, Will Things Get Violent?

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    Re: If Health Care Reform Passes, Will Things Get Violent?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Dude, cut out the personal attacks. It's obnoxious.
    Then quit being a political hack and acting like one side is acting any better than the other. Or that either side has in the last 20 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    The tone and tenor of the discussion seems more strident, angrier, and has incidents of intimidation that didn't exist in 2000.
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    No one brought guns to rallies back then that I ever heard of, or threatened they would next time. Let me ask you, what signs would worry you?
    So why would someone carrying a legal weapon strike fear in your heart? Why would it even matter, it is legal.

    None of the above.

    The American public is a bunch of pussies right and left. Your argument is a good example.
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    Re: If Health Care Reform Passes, Will Things Get Violent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Now you are suggesting that waging war against the US government is "brave". Noted.

    FYI, this thread (to my understanding) wasn't about whether a Civil War was about to break out, but whether a bunch of disgruntled conservatives would go balistic and start doing crazy violent things if health reform passed. I answered accordingly.
    Do you mean like they did at the G-20 yesterday?... breaking windows, fighting with police and National Guard, over 60 arrested....

    Oh wait.... that was the violent Right-wing terrorist Mob wasn't it?

    Let's compare yesterdays protests with the Tea Parties.... how many were arrested at them or the town halls?

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    Re: If Health Care Reform Passes, Will Things Get Violent?

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Meanwhile back to the OP; if Health Care Reform Passes, Will Things Get Violent?

    No! For the following reason.

    65% favor, not only insurance reform but a public option, according to this latest poll out.Only 26% apposed it,hardly enough to worry about.

    New York Times/CBS News Poll: Confusion Over Health Care - The New York Times
    New York Times/CBS News Poll:... you’re killing me here Don...

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    Re: If Health Care Reform Passes, Will Things Get Violent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    New York Times/CBS News Poll:... you’re killing me here Don...
    So… prove its wrong.
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    Re: If Health Care Reform Passes, Will Things Get Violent?

    Fifty-six percent (56%) of voters nationwide now oppose the health care reform proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. That’s the highest level of opposition yet measured and includes 44% who are Strongly Opposed.
    Health Care Reform - Rasmussen Reports

    Key survey findings included that 84 percent of those who are currently insured are satisfied with their health care. For those without insurance, only 46 percent had some level of satisfaction with their health care. Almost 80 percent agreed that rising healthcare costs are hurting American businesses. An expanded role for government in health care is opposed by 48 percent of Americans, while 44 percent support it. Forty-six percent of respondents agreed that a public plan is needed to "keep insurance companies honest."
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    PRINCETON, NJ -- Americans are skeptical that President Obama's healthcare plan will be able to accomplish all he intends -- to expand coverage to nearly all Americans without raising taxes on middle-class Americans or affecting the quality of care. Thirty-eight percent believe his plan will achieve all of these goals, while 60% do not think it will.
    Many Americans Doubt Costs, Benefits of Healthcare Reform

    Try using real polling companies instead of left-wing propaganda companies.

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    Re: If Health Care Reform Passes, Will Things Get Violent?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    The right end of the political spectrum has gotten worked up lately, more worked up and agitated than I can remember people getting in a long time. My fear is this: imagine that Obama gets health care reform through congress. We have people at town hall meetings, one of our oldest democratic traditions, shouting out congressmen. We have people bringing guns to political events (that aren't even gun related), and going on about the blood of tyrants. When I see how much hatred and anger is on the far right at this moment, it makes me scared that if they don't get their way they might turn violent. We're talking about violence on a scale larger than a few nuts here and there. Does anyone else see the same thing happening?
    Their reactions are no different than those of the extreme leftists urging armed resistance against bu****ler starting in 2003. How quickly we forget. Except me, of course.

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    Re: If Health Care Reform Passes, Will Things Get Violent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Health Care Reform - Rasmussen Reports



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    Many Americans Doubt Costs, Benefits of Healthcare Reform

    Try using real polling companies instead of left-wing propaganda companies.
    So your premise is that the 44% of Americans in the Rasmussen poll, that strongly oppose healthcare reform will now be commenting violence against the 24% who Strongly Favor it.

    Kinda make one go Hhmm…wondering what the other 32% will be doing doesn’t it?
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    Re: If Health Care Reform Passes, Will Things Get Violent?

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    So your premise is that the 44% of Americans in the Rasmussen poll, that strongly oppose healthcare reform will now be commenting violence against the 24% who Strongly Favor it.
    Putting words in my mouth Don? Where you got that is where you get most of your slander.... noted. BTW.... as far as I've seen, no one has been "commenting" violence.

    Kinda make one go Hhmm…wondering what the other 32% will be doing doesn’t it?

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    Re: If Health Care Reform Passes, Will Things Get Violent?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    that is why you need to put more money into the system. If the system has more money than no one need be cut. And can I see the Obama quote about illegal immigrants?
    Raising taxes right now will further depress the economy. There is no more money.

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    Neither of these are the speech I heard. I heard it twice. I'll keep looking.

    But she'd be eligible under his new system, so why is this a problem?

    She's currently tied up in court with Sacramento Regional Transit. Needless to say they're going to fight having to pay off as much as needed. And I doubt she, being a student working two jobs at the mall, would be able to afford any insurance.
    Why didn't she have her own insurance. Have you given her any money? Has she approached her church or community organizations? Using a single persons bad results of the refusal to plan for bad occurrences as a reason to change the entire society she lives in is absurd. Changing the entire system to accommodate less than 10% who cannot or will not use the system that exists is absurd. This is just a dishonest opportunistic attempt to move this country further toward socialism and away from capitalism.

    Can you debate here without being insulting? kthx.
    It was you that used the "lie" word. I simply insinuated that you may well not be informed on the matter. Guess I was right. Were you trolling for me to call you a liar?

    Really? How do you figure? I don't see people at rallies with signs quoting Krauthammer. I don't see the RNC chair apologizing to Crystal.

    I never said they were equivalent. Don't put words in my mouth, its rude. And I listened to Limbaugh every day for several months, I know where he stands. I've only seen some Beck, but I've seen enough to get his stances, so don't judge that which you don't know.

    And Steele apologizing to Limbaugh?

    Not to mention a conspiracy theorist, but that's neither here nor there.

    I do live in California, in a midsized city that's fairly liberal, and I've heard very few people blame all opposition on racism. I think you're hearing what you want to hear here.
    You used Rush and Beck in the same sentence with the same descriptor. This more than infers an "equivalency". I did not put the words in your mouth; you did.

    Did I use a generalization about O's opponents being called racist? So sorry. Just passing on what I heard from my barber and Jimmy Carter.

    I am not rude...merely frank! A fellow Californian of your's once called me passive aggresive. I thanked him for his liberal assessment.
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    Re: If Health Care Reform Passes, Will Things Get Violent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Putting words in my mouth Don? Where you got that is where you get most of your slander.... noted. BTW.... as far as I've seen, no one has been "commenting" violence.
    Reread my post crunch and think real hard maybe, a light bulb will go off.
    “I am a man of fixed and unbending principles, the first of which is to remain flexible at all times.”

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