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    Re: Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by jr602az View Post
    I think Canada, Mexico and USA should Unite and stop the failure borders.
    the country do unite. the NORAD accord in 2008 and CMP accord iin 2004.

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    Re: Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Well based on my calculations if you place a soldier every 1/4 mile, 6000 would be enough. Then you need to have shifts, and support personal, and Officers and detention facilities with guards. I think it could be done with 30000 overall perhaps a bit more. I could be wrong in my math though. Plus if you add Helicopters and Unmanned drones and other detection equipment that number could be reduced.
    it will cost much less when the soldier shoot them.

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    Re: Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders?

    Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders yes take over Mexico that would solve the problems,they give u fellas to much probs,so f-ck them,Canada is ok most of them are Brits apart from the frogs,just stick them in the net and feed them



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    Re: Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders?

    No, and it's a purposeless point of focus that functions as a red herring. What's not focused on are the more pertinent issues of the role in trade liberalization in displacing Mexican agricultural workers or why the U.S. has such a demand for low-skilled workers to begin with.

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    Re: Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No one wants to seal the borders, they want to control them.
    And that's just it. The whole opening post was a dishonest misrepresentation of what was being said in another thread about how to control the border.

    I proposed that a first offense of illegal entry into the country be met with deportation back to the country of origin. Subsequent offenses to be met with a 5 year labor sentence building a wall of monumental proportions that would rival the Great Wall as a world wonder. I also insisted that there be immigration stations built into the wall that would give access to legal immigration.

    The OP exhibits that he missed the point just with the post he made. The point of the wall isn't to hermetically seal the border or make it less than porous for travel purposes. The purpose is to make a bold statement that crossing this border illegally will lead to you helping to make the border harder to cross when we drop you on the other side again minus 5 years of your life. The purpose of building the immigration stations into the wall are to offer no excuse for not doing things legally and to make certain that they know they are welcome to enter but do so with respect for our laws.

    In the end, they get more access to legal means of entry and we get a world wonder built on the backs of those trying to disrespect our laws and enter by illegal means.

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    Re: Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders?

    No one is seriously advocating sealing all U.S. borders, so the question is setting up a non existant strawman. If rephrase the question to deal with the debate people are having in the real world to something like "Can we significantly improve our efforts to control our borders and control the flow of illegal immigrants?" then the answer is a resounding yes. My plan is pretty similar to others, but I'll spell it out ...

    1. Eliminate all government services and aid for illegal immigrants. The two possible exceptions I could see is allowing them to report a crime without fear of being rounded up by the police and allowing life saving medical treatment, but they would be deported once stablized. With no welfare, foodstamps, education, healthcare, ect available, the US is a lot less attractive to illegal immigrants.

    2. Local police should be required to detain illegals caught in any sort of criminal activity. No more illegal immigrants with rap sheets longer than my right arm.

    2. Impose harsh fines and penalties for companies that knowingly hire illegal immigrants. I could go along with asset siezure as a penalty here. With no government services and no jobs, why the heck would they want to come here?

    3. Increase border patrols and enforcement. I'm not necessarily advocating building a fence, though I'm not opposed to it. Whatever is the best combination of cost effectiveness and efficiency.

    I'd also be willing to re-examine the anchor baby

    In exchange for implementing some version of this plan, I'd go along with a pathway for citizenship for folks already here, as long as it including paying a fine and going to the back of the line. I wouldn't ask them to return to their country of origin, as that's just asking for them to ignore the program entirely.

    My plan removes incentives for coming here and steps up enforcement to make it more difficult. Will it completely stop illegal immigration? No, but no laws completely eliminate the things they prohibit. But I firmly believe it would noticeably if not dramatically decrease illegal immigration from the levels it is at now.
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    Re: Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders?

    Commissioner Testifies on Land Border Enforcement Progress



    Looks like its a combination of many things that are being utilized right now.

    IT managment of many systems is a big part. It looks pretty doable if expensive.
    Thank you

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    Re: Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders?

    That ten voted "yes".
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    I voted yes, as a joke.
    Of course its possible.
    Build a wall 50 feet thick, 200 feet high, completely around our entire nation and *d a m n* the expense. Ingore the Chinese, the Russian, the French, and other failures...

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    Re: Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    No one is seriously advocating sealing all U.S. borders, so the question is setting up a non existant strawman. If rephrase the question to deal with the debate people are having in the real world to something like "Can we significantly improve our efforts to control our borders and control the flow of illegal immigrants?" then the answer is a resounding yes. My plan is pretty similar to others, but I'll spell it out ...

    1. Eliminate all government services and aid for illegal immigrants. The two possible exceptions I could see is allowing them to report a crime without fear of being rounded up by the police and allowing life saving medical treatment, but they would be deported once stablized. With no welfare, foodstamps, education, healthcare, ect available, the US is a lot less attractive to illegal immigrants.

    2. Local police should be required to detain illegals caught in any sort of criminal activity. No more illegal immigrants with rap sheets longer than my right arm.

    2. Impose harsh fines and penalties for companies that knowingly hire illegal immigrants. I could go along with asset siezure as a penalty here. With no government services and no jobs, why the heck would they want to come here?

    3. Increase border patrols and enforcement. I'm not necessarily advocating building a fence, though I'm not opposed to it. Whatever is the best combination of cost effectiveness and efficiency.

    I'd also be willing to re-examine the anchor baby

    In exchange for implementing some version of this plan, I'd go along with a pathway for citizenship for folks already here, as long as it including paying a fine and going to the back of the line. I wouldn't ask them to return to their country of origin, as that's just asking for them to ignore the program entirely.

    My plan removes incentives for coming here and steps up enforcement to make it more difficult. Will it completely stop illegal immigration? No, but no laws completely eliminate the things they prohibit. But I firmly believe it would noticeably if not dramatically decrease illegal immigration from the levels it is at now.
    I can agree with those ideas! (the idea of seriously trying to seal off our borders is ridiculous)

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    Re: Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders?

    Sure it is possible to seal our borders.. we can just disperse our nuclear waste along its length.

    ohh wait.. they might be able to get radiation suits, or just simply dig under it.

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