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    Re: Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders?

    No

    Island nations like Britain have tried to ban say handguns and have failed. we cannot seal our borders given thousands of miles with Mexico and Canada plus two huge ocean borders



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    Re: Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Its a little bigger than your back yard, amigo.
    I'm aware of that. You seem to think building an advanced and large wall or fence across our southern border is technologically unfeasible. I would remind you that the US government has created some of the most incredible engineering marvels in the history of the planet. We flew to the moon, I'm pretty sure we can manage a big fence...

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    Re: Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders?

    What is your supposition that I said it was unfeasable? You make to man assumptions about the people you discuss with, I suggest you apply some moderation towards yourself or even cool off. Is this what political discussion on the internet does to people?

    And yes the US has done amazing things, they could build a wall if they wanted but the political will is not there and it would be ungodly expensive. Those were the points I was trying to make.

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    Re: Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    What is your supposition that I said it was unfeasable?
    Gee, I dunno, maybe the snide comment you made about our southern border being bigger than my back yard. That might have been it...

    You make to man assumptions about the people you discuss with, I suggest you apply some moderation towards yourself or even cool off. Is this what political discussion on the internet does to people?
    I'm perfectly calm, amigo. Maybe you should learn to communicate more effectively.

    And yes the US has done amazing things, they could build a wall if they wanted but the political will is not there and it would be ungodly expensive. Those were the points I was trying to make.
    Show me where you were trying to make those points. I'll wait.

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    Re: Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    And yes the US has done amazing things, they could build a wall if they wanted but the political will is not there and it would be ungodly expensive. Those were the points I was trying to make.

    "Ungodly expensive"?

    There's 1500 miles of border between the US and Mexico.

    If it cost a billion dollars to build the fence, that would be $670,000 per mile of fence. Round it up to a million bucks a mile.

    You can put a lot of defense on and around a fence for a million bucks a mile.


    Concertina wire is inexpensive, so are web-cam operated targetting paint ball guns shooting luminous paint. The ground sensors for the enemy's digging operations might be pricey, but not really

    And the best fence of all is free. Just start putting the employers of these invaders in Maricopa County Jail.

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    Re: Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders?

    I dont think we should try for a physical barrier, alone this is pretty ineffective. I think we should remove all incentives to be here illegilly. Do this by cutting all social services, heavily fine any employer who employees them and deport all that are found. And as a last ditch effort if all of the above has failed, simply set up a 20 mile no cross zone. Anyone found in this zone is a shoot on sight and place our national guard there. It wouldnt take very many ignoring the threat and being killed to slow the flow of people willing to risk the death to themselves and family.

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    Re: Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Why?

    I don't follow teh logic train.
    It was a joke, but still... why would we want to deny rich space shuttle flying people from anywhere in the world if they want to become American? What is the point of keeping out or denying somebody like that?
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    Re: Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    What is your supposition that I said it was unfeasable? You make to man assumptions about the people you discuss with, I suggest you apply some moderation towards yourself or even cool off. Is this what political discussion on the internet does to people?
    Ethereal is just about always cool, I don't think that I have ever seen (or read) otherwise. Disagree? Sure... but uncool? Hells no.
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    Re: Is It Possible To Seal Our Borders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Ethereal is just about always cool, I don't think that I have ever seen (or read) otherwise. Disagree? Sure... but uncool? Hells no.
    Sorry, he just put words in my mouth and attempted to polarise my opinion as completely contrary to his own.

    "Ungodly expensive"?

    There's 1500 miles of border between the US and Mexico.

    If it cost a billion dollars to build the fence, that would be $670,000 per mile of fence. Round it up to a million bucks a mile.

    You can put a lot of defense on and around a fence for a million bucks a mile.
    Well if it cost any fantasy number I'm sure we could fantasize that it was cheap, certainly when were pulling numbers out of thin air.

    Also, we would only have to fence certain parts of the border, not the entire thing considering for distance from human civilization, terrain, etc. You have to also consider the costs over time for maintaining it and whether the fence would actually work. The projected costs for maintaining 660 some miles of fence over 20 years is 6.5 billion and they don't even know how effective it will be.

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