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Are you currently legally employed?

Are you currently legally employed?

  • Yes

    Votes: 40 67.8%
  • No

    Votes: 19 32.2%

  • Total voters
    59
they do not have to be mutually exclusive ;)

Of course, the ideal is to make a comfortable living while doing a job that we love.

Unfortunately, not everyone is able to have that luxury especially when we choose a career that doesn't pay well.
 
Of course, the ideal is to make a comfortable living while doing a job that we love.

Unfortunately, not everyone is able to have that luxury especially when we choose a career that doesn't pay well.
There are always other options to earn money.
God is not the only one that works in mysterious ways. :twisted:
 
I have to say this was another major contributor to my decision. I believe a national defense is THE most important role of our government and I support the resent "excursions" being they are working to make sure a war is fought on other turf than our own, but due to recent revisions of war policy the military's hand have been tied by the liberal revisions to rules of engagement that are a main contributor to the monumental increase in american casualties on the Afghan front. I also feel sorry for our boys in the national guard and the possibilities of what they may be asked to do in the future...

I personally feel incredibly sorry for all those who've lost their lives in the pointless exercise that was Iraq, but after realising that my government apparently feels as though it's entitled to sacrifice the lives of young men and women or reasons other han national defence, I'd beg anyone considering enlisting to re-consider their decision. Killing others, be they combatants or innocent people or fellow soldiers, risking your own life, and for no good reason, with relatively poor pay, is not a decent career path.
 
I personally feel incredibly sorry for all those who've lost their lives in the pointless exercise that was Iraq, but after realising that my government apparently feels as though it's entitled to sacrifice the lives of young men and women or reasons other han national defence, I'd beg anyone considering enlisting to re-consider their decision. Killing others, be they combatants or innocent people or fellow soldiers, risking your own life, and for no good reason, with relatively poor pay, is not a decent career path.
One does not join the military in order to kill people, but rather to defend his nation.

You may argue that according to your own world view, the war in Iraq and Afghanistan were not meant to defend the Western world, but according to another person's world of view, those wars might just have, and the killing of the terrorists in those places have indeed prevented them from bringing terrorism to the citizens' homes.
 
I personally feel incredibly sorry for all those who've lost their lives in the pointless exercise that was Iraq, but after realising that my government apparently feels as though it's entitled to sacrifice the lives of young men and women or reasons other han national defence, I'd beg anyone considering enlisting to re-consider their decision. Killing others, be they combatants or innocent people or fellow soldiers, risking your own life, and for no good reason, with relatively poor pay, is not a decent career path.

There are various jobs in the military; before you enlist, you take a test called the ASVAB, and the higher your score is, the more jobs you have to choose from.
Many of the jobs offered by the military are combat-related; others are not. They are merely technical or support persons.
Although they may be deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, it is unlikely (although not impossible) that they'll ever be in a position where they have to kill anyone.
They're unlikely to see combat firsthand.

That is not to say they couldn't get blown up by a roadside bomb; anyone over there could.
But depending upon one's MOS (job), one might never even have to leave base.

I'm not saying your feelings are wrong; I felt exactly the same before my son joined, and to some extent I still do: I'd encourage anyone who has other reasonable options to explore those options.
On the other hand, i know a little more about the military now, and I know that joining- or even deploying- is not an automatic death sentence. Nor does it automatically mean you will go into combat and kill people.
Although everyone is trained to use weapons (in Basic Training), not everyone is likely to ever be in a position to need to use them.
After Basic Training is over, infantry soldiers get more advanced combat training, while soldiers in non-combat MOS's go to other bases to get specific training in their respective fields.
 
There are various jobs in the military; before you enlist, you take a test called the ASVAB, and the higher your score is, the more jobs you have to choose from.
Many of the jobs offered by the military are combat-related; others are not. They are merely technical or support persons.
Although they may be deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, it is unlikely (although not impossible) that they'll ever be in a position where they have to kill anyone.
They're unlikely to see combat firsthand.

That is not to say they couldn't get blown up by a roadside bomb; anyone over there could.
But depending upon one's MOS (job), one might never even have to leave base.

I'm not saying your feelings are wrong; I felt exactly the same before my son joined, and to some extent I still do: I'd encourage anyone who has other reasonable options to explore those options.
On the other hand, i know a little more about the military now, and I know that joining- or even deploying- is not an automatic death sentence. Nor does it automatically mean you will go into combat and kill people.
Although everyone is trained to use weapons (in Basic Training), not everyone is likely to ever be in a position to need to use them.
After Basic Training is over, infantry soldiers get more advanced combat training, while soldiers in non-combat MOS's go to other bases to get specific training in their respective fields.

Mhm, I've had family serving in the military so I know a wee bit about the different job classes, but now, considering the fact that in many nations involved with in Iraq, recruitment and re-uptake is falling, I'd be worried about being seconded from a primarily non-combatant role to work on the front-lines. Plus, it just wouldn't make me as happy as the career I'm planning to enter.
 
who besides a newborn could find our Rat scary???:lol:

Details!!!

Wasn't offered any. Some "thing" I did some "time" made some "one" "uncomfortable." Apparently serious enough that a reprimand would be insufficient and that telling me what the actual problem is would expose someone to the threat of retaliation.

I don't care. I'm just ****ing tired and all I want is a place for Leslie and I to live-- we're having to move into separate quarters-- and a hot meal every day so I can focus on my writing.
 
Yes, although I dropped to part time now that the school year has started
 
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If being in the Navy Reserves counts, then yes. Otherwise I take care of the kids, and hubby works. And soon he will be active Navy, and we will pretty much double our household income. I'm looking forward to spring.
 
Mhm, I've had family serving in the military so I know a wee bit about the different job classes, but now, considering the fact that in many nations involved with in Iraq, recruitment and re-uptake is falling, I'd be worried about being seconded from a primarily non-combatant role to work on the front-lines. Plus, it just wouldn't make me as happy as the career I'm planning to enter.

Well actually as a woman, you can't technically go to the front lines. And many Navy personnel don't come anywhere close to the front lines. Although we do have personnel getting sent in with Army units, most of our job, even in those cases, is security and guard duty for bases and camps.

In fact, I was on active duty in the Navy almost 10 years and never even held an actual government-issued weapon (we trained with laser rifles while they redid the firing range in basic).

But actually now days most people wanting to join the military will probably have to go into the Army or wait unless they can meet certain requirements to get them into special jobs for the other branches. The Army is taking the most recruits right now, while the other branches are being told to back off on their recruitment.
 
Wasn't offered any. Some "thing" I did some "time" made some "one" "uncomfortable." Apparently serious enough that a reprimand would be insufficient and that telling me what the actual problem is would expose someone to the threat of retaliation.

I don't care. I'm just ****ing tired and all I want is a place for Leslie and I to live-- we're having to move into separate quarters-- and a hot meal every day so I can focus on my writing.

Sounds like you were the one retaliated upon.
 
Just curious as to whether unemployment was really at only 10%, but i see now that asking here would be a poor judgement.

Cant tell if you are being critical or not, but if you are, why post?
who was being critical? insight is neutral. we have many students here.
 
I work two jobs and go to grad school full-time. All you "No I'm a student" people are pansies. :2razz:
 
addressed to me? why? i'm way past my student days......

Sorry, It wasn't adressed to you. I usually use the quote function when addressing someone directly. It was just my first post in this thread answering the OP and giving a little razz to Ethereal and Crippler who were the first two "No, I'm a student" answers I saw.
 
Well actually as a woman, you can't technically go to the front lines. And many Navy personnel don't come anywhere close to the front lines. Although we do have personnel getting sent in with Army units, most of our job, even in those cases, is security and guard duty for bases and camps.

In fact, I was on active duty in the Navy almost 10 years and never even held an actual government-issued weapon (we trained with laser rifles while they redid the firing range in basic).

But actually now days most people wanting to join the military will probably have to go into the Army or wait unless they can meet certain requirements to get them into special jobs for the other branches. The Army is taking the most recruits right now, while the other branches are being told to back off on their recruitment.

My worry isn't being put into front line ombat, it's being sent to an area in ANY sort of conflict, even in a support role. So, I'm happy to stay out of that sort of danger, and make good money at home.
 
Sorry, It wasn't adressed to you. I usually use the quote function when addressing someone directly. It was just my first post in this thread answering the OP and giving a little razz to Ethereal and Crippler who were the first two "No, I'm a student" answers I saw.
no worries!
 
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