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    Re: Would you utilize the public option?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    No, you wish it was a red herring. It is not.
    Maybe you just don't know what a red herring is . . .

    Red herring
    Main article: Red herring (idiom)

    Similar to ignoratio elenchi, a red herring is an argument, given in reply, that does not address the original issue. Critically, a red herring is a deliberate attempt to change the subject or divert the argument. This is known formally in the English vocabulary as a digression which is usually denoted as "red herring".
    The thrust of my question was to whom would one appeal a breach of contract. Your attempt to bring up the particulars of any one breach of contract suit, are immaterial to the question of whom one would appeal the suit to.

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    You know how the answer would make your stance look.
    Simply false. I already told you, pick your own favorite, it makes no difference to my question.

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    Re: Would you utilize the public option?

    Since the site's about to go down for re-indexing, and I have an early day, in the morning, I will return tomorrow...I'm certain, still, without Voidwar clarifying his term, and continuing to stall debate.
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    Re: Would you utilize the public option?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    ...I'm certain, still, without Voidwar clarifying his term, and continuing to stall debate.
    What's continuing, is Captain Courtesy's avoidance of the question I asked him on page two.

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    Re: Would you utilize the public option?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Then we all must wonder why you are avoiding clarifying your terms.
    Naw, if we were people who wondered, what we would wonder is why you can't answer the original question.

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    Re: Would you utilize the public option?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    If I was American, possibly, yes. It'd depend on the charges and what the plan covered. Lord knows if they'll actually be able to establish a public option that isn't stripped down to appease those who love their socilaised roads, schools, libraries and fire departments but are somehow convinced that socialised medicine will be a horrendous beauracratic montrosity.
    A lot of those things are horrendous, bureaucratic monstrosities. It takes a lot to avoid that will a public option, though it would be possible.
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    Re: Would you utilize the public option?

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    Maybe you just don't know what a red herring is . . .
    I know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    The thrust of my question was to whom would one appeal a breach of contract. Your attempt to bring up the particulars of any one breach of contract suit, are immaterial to the question of whom one would appeal the suit to.
    This is the red herring. You are complaining about CC switching terms when it is apparent that they are talking about the same thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    Simply false. I already told you, pick your own favorite, it makes no difference to my question.
    Okay, denial of benefits it is.
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    Re: Would you utilize the public option?

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeVFF View Post
    Due to the assumed intellectual characteristics of the users on this forum due to your pursuit of "intellectual" debate, most of you probably have jobs and already have healthcare, I was interested in real numbers on the consumer base of the public option. Please vote truthfully.
    i would if i had the need, absolutely.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Would you utilize the public option?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Dear ****ing god, yes. I've seen how Medicare works first hand while working in the health care industry.


    I trust pretty much anyone to handle things better than the government does.


    And myself, I KNOW I don't want some government bureaucrat deciding that I'm not allowed to eat this or drink that or participate in that kind of sport because they don't want to foot the bill should I get sick or injured. I also don't want to pay out the ass in taxes to fund something as sad as medicaid/medicare, be denied payment of my services and be too broke to pay for it myself because I'm being taxed to death to pay for "healthcare" that rations its services.


    And I KNOW I DON'T want some government group making decisions about my personal life choices and healthcare. I do NOT want the government to have a vested interest in my health and as such, have reason and ability to limit my personal freedoms and choices.


    At least for now I can.


    Who says I would even have it?


    I always do.



    I have no problem with people choosing to mooch off the government as long as I can choose not to, and choose not to pay for it with my taxes.

    Public option is absolutely fine with me as long as I can opt out of using it and opt out of paying for it. In that case, I consider the government just another insurance agency - As long as they refrain from banning "unhealthy" foods or activities and/or refrain from mandating certain activities.
    wow......why is opting, and paying for, a public option considered mooching? MOST of us pay taxes.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Arrow Re: Would you utilize the public option?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I know.
    So did you deliberately use a red herring as a distraction or . . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    This is the red herring. You are complaining about CC switching terms when it is apparent that they are talking about the same thing.
    Simply false. If they WERE the same thing, he would have been able to answer the original question

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Okay, denial of benefits it is.
    Still don't understand a red herring eh ?

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    Re: Would you utilize the public option?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Since it is obvious to me that you are unable to understand what this thread is about, I will allow the OP to tell you:


    As usual, TD, you have been exposed as a liar, and someone who has no intention of discussing issues, but would rather just spew their foolish extreme rightwing partisan hackery...and ignore the issues in the thread.

    As for the rest of your nonsensical typical irrelevancy? Basement material.
    Once again you attempt to project, obfuscate and deny your own intellectually dishonest efforts.

    Are you going to respond to my comments exposing your lies and distortions about my arguments in your typically uninformed effort to insult my comments with trite little claims of "hyper partisanship?"

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1058253702

    Trust me, I don't expect any honesty from you; the notion that you could deal honestly and intellectually would require the willful suspension of disbelief.

    Carry on.

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