View Poll Results: What is conservatism?

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  • It's about being reactionary and authoritarian with a social agenda.

    5 17.24%
  • It's about smaller government and/or lower taxes.

    21 72.41%
  • It's about individual liberty.

    21 72.41%
  • It's about capitalism.

    19 65.52%
  • It's (also?) about something else which I will explain.

    9 31.03%
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Thread: For CONSERVATIVES: What is conservatism?

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    Re: For CONSERVATIVES: What is conservatism?

    Conservatism is about keeping things "the way they used to be." Which is why they almost always reject change, i.e. progressiveness.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: For CONSERVATIVES: What is conservatism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Conservatism is about keeping things "the way they used to be." Which is why they almost always reject change, i.e. progressiveness.
    Read the previous posts, you will realize that statement is misinformed.

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    Re: For CONSERVATIVES: What is conservatism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Conservatism is about keeping things "the way they used to be." Which is why they almost always reject change, i.e. progressiveness.
    Ah, 'progressiveness"...
    You do know that "change" and "progress" are not synonyms, right?

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    Re: For CONSERVATIVES: What is conservatism?

    Never mind that self-styled "progressives" have a whole litany of areas where they want progress stopped . . .
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    Re: For CONSERVATIVES: What is conservatism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Never mind that self-styled "progressives" have a whole litany of areas where they want progress stopped . . .
    Of course - its not "progress" if it leads -away- from a free society...

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    Re: For CONSERVATIVES: What is conservatism?

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeVFF View Post
    Read the previous posts, you will realize that statement is misinformed.

    • Main Entry: con·ser·va·tism
    • Pronunciation: \kən-ˈsər-və-ˌti-zəm\
    • Function: noun
    • Date: 1832

    1 capitalized a : the principles and policies of a Conservative party b : the Conservative party
    2 a : disposition in politics to preserve what is established b : a political philosophy based on tradition and social stability, stressing established institutions, and preferring gradual development to abrupt change; specifically : such a philosophy calling for lower taxes, limited government regulation of business and investing, a strong national defense, and individual financial responsibility for personal needs (as retirement income or health-care coverage)
    "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

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    Re: For CONSERVATIVES: What is conservatism?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    • Main Entry: con·ser·va·tism
    • Pronunciation: \kən-ˈsər-və-ˌti-zəm\
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    1 capitalized a : the principles and policies of a Conservative party b : the Conservative party
    2 a : disposition in politics to preserve what is established b : a political philosophy based on tradition and social stability, stressing established institutions, and preferring gradual development to abrupt change; specifically : such a philosophy calling for lower taxes, limited government regulation of business and investing, a strong national defense, and individual financial responsibility for personal needs (as retirement income or health-care coverage)
    In reality, the Conservative Ideology is open for interpretation, so a narrow dictation cannot express its meaning.

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    Re: For CONSERVATIVES: What is conservatism?

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeVFF View Post
    In reality, the Conservative Ideology is open for interpretation, so a narrow dictation cannot express its meaning.
    Exactly. "Conservatism" is very subjective and the definition varies depending on whom you speak with. Therefore, it is interesting that you would tell Goldenboy that his definition is incorrect.
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    Re: For CONSERVATIVES: What is conservatism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Conservatism is about keeping things "the way they used to be." Which is why they almost always reject change, i.e. progressiveness.
    A state without the means of some change is without the means of its conservation.
    Edmund Burke

    Conservatism, in the Burkean sense which is the only really meaningful one, is not averse to change completely. It simply seeks slow, gradual and piecemeal change.
    "It is written in the eternal constitution that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." - Edmund Burke

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    Re: For CONSERVATIVES: What is conservatism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Fair enough. Though there are some neo-cons on this very board who voted for the middle three, but clearly support the first. One of the big problems is that the neo-cons want to try to pretend they are old school conservative, when their policies and platform are counter to what conservatism once meant.
    Of course they do, they call themselves conservative so they can convince the old-school conservative voters to vote for them. That's certainly not a new political trick. The current neo-con Republican regime came from the Southern Democrats who abandoned the party from the late 50s through late 60s in response to the Democratic position on civil rights and abortion and it's taken them this long to work their way up through the ranks and take over the Republican party. That's why none of the classic conservative beliefs are still held by the Republican party, we have the far-left Democrats and the far-right Democrats.
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