View Poll Results: Should the U.S. pull it's troops out of Afganistan?

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  • Yes. There is no possible victory there for us.

    11 17.19%
  • No. Stay & finish the job

    35 54.69%
  • Yes. Leave a mobil force in the area to fight terrorists/Taliban but leave Afganistan.

    15 23.44%
  • Pull all troops out of the area. It's not our fight.

    10 15.63%
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Thread: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

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    Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    After almost 9 years & a worsening situation in that god-forsaken country, is it time to declare victory & leave?

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Why should we leave?


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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Yes please.
    Tomorrow if possible.


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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    I honestly don't know.
    It's a little confusing.

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I honestly don't know.
    It's a little confusing.
    The way I think about having our military involved in another country is this:

    Is our presence there moral, (always a judgment call) AND is there a clearly definable & realistic path to victory for us? (if the clear answer to both of those questions is not YES...then we shouldn't be there)
    Last edited by Devil505; 09-09-09 at 08:54 AM.

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    A difficult choice. Although our current plan isn't working very well, that doesn't mean alternate strategies wouldn't be successful. Leaving an enemy who hosted terrorists once before back in command is a bad outcome, but not as a bad as wasting as more billions and lives for the same result. The question is: can the government actually do what is required to win?

    It is simply not possible to kill the Taliban is quantifies large enough that they will stay dead when we leave. Nobody ever won a counter-insurgency by attrition. We need to create a stable nation lead by anyone who isn't the Taliban. Karzai is far to weak and puppetish to get the job done. Trying to get a leader who is democratic and U.S. friendly simply isn't possible. We should aim for only two qualities: able to rule the country and doesn't hate the U.S. enough to want to destroy us.

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    After almost 9 years & a worsening situation in that god-forsaken country, is it time to declare victory & leave?
    The difference between Afghanistan and Iraq is that Afghanistan was legitimate target after 9/11. We should have never left there and gone off to fight some retard war in Iraq. What should we do now? Well now it's hard to say. Can we make a difference? Maybe. Can we clear up the mess which led to the freedom the Taliban enjoyed in the country? Maybe not so much any more. It will be tough, I don't know how it would be done, and who knows we may get side tracked into a different war while doing it.

    I'm not so willing to say Afghanistan wasn't our war, but we screwed the pooch hard on this one.
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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The difference between Afghanistan and Iraq is that Afghanistan was legitimate target after 9/11. We should have never left there and gone off to fight some retard war in Iraq. What should we do now? Well now it's hard to say. Can we make a difference? Maybe. Can we clear up the mess which led to the freedom the Taliban enjoyed in the country? Maybe not so much any more. It will be tough, I don't know how it would be done, and who knows we may get side tracked into a different war while doing it.

    I'm not so willing to say Afghanistan wasn't our war, but we screwed the pooch hard on this one.
    A few thoughts:

    1. The terrain makes Afghanistan one of the worst areas in the world for large conventional forces, as the Soviets found out.
    2. We face small, mobile groups of terrorists & Taliban making our overwhelming conventional force almost useless.
    3. Whatever we can do effectively, can be done with small, highly mobile elite forces & unmanned aircraft. (UAV's)
    4. Our forces on the ground are simply excellent, static targets.
    5. We appear (now) to be making more local enemies (bad air strikes, etc) than we are winning any Afghan hearts & minds.

    Therefore, I think we should pull out of Afghanistan entirely & leave small, elite forces in the area to attack Al Quieda & Taliban...until we can train local (middle eastern) forces to take up the fight.
    Last edited by Devil505; 09-09-09 at 01:43 PM.

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The difference between Afghanistan and Iraq is that Afghanistan was legitimate target after 9/11. .
    All nations are legitimate targets.


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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I honestly don't know.
    It's a little confusing.
    Much as I hate to agree with 10, I think this is the best answer. I doubt any one here(with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions, you know who you are) really know enough about the situation there to make a call. I am really split on the issue, it's one where I can see both sides.

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