View Poll Results: Should the U.S. pull it's troops out of Afganistan?

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  • Yes. There is no possible victory there for us.

    11 17.19%
  • No. Stay & finish the job

    35 54.69%
  • Yes. Leave a mobil force in the area to fight terrorists/Taliban but leave Afganistan.

    15 23.44%
  • Pull all troops out of the area. It's not our fight.

    10 15.63%
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Thread: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Maybe because he flew onboard our ship to welcome us home? Granted that it did look good for him to come aboard an aircraft carrier as it was returning from a military operation that he was trying to garner support for. However, that is our banner.
    It may have been your banner but it was certainly cynically used by Bush's staff to make a political statement...which of course was a lie.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I have no doubt that he was using it to support his speech, however, the context of the banner itself was meant to express our own support of OIF.
    It might have meant that to you....To Bush's press men it was meant to convey to the world that the Iraq war was over & a success.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Also, have you been aboard an aircraft carrier? The flight deck is a pretty boring sight. And the speech wasn't exactly "Welcome home and have a nice day." So the camera people have to have something to focus their cameras on during the speech, so why not have the banner that we took the time to put up in it?
    Yes I have been aboard an aircraft carrier & Bush's speech could easily have used a E-2C Hawkeye , EA-6B Prowler , F/A-18 Hornet or many other aircraft as dramatic backdrops.....No?
    Are you really tryimng to sell the idea that having that banner prominently displayed above Bush....was an accident??...Come on!
    Last edited by Devil505; 09-21-09 at 08:47 AM.

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Yes I have been aboard an aircraft carrier & Bush's speech could easily have used a E-2C Hawkeye , EA-6B Prowler , F/A-18 Hornet or many other aircraft as dramatic backdrops.....No?
    Not for the entire time. That would have been a little boring. Plus, a good portion of the crew was up there listening, so there wasn't a whole lot of room left to have many of the planes up there. Heck, we didn't even have had most of our airwing left onboard. We were pulling into San Diego later on that morning and we had already flown off a good portion of them the day before, since San Diego was their home port, whereas, Everett, WA was ours.

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not for the entire time. That would have been a little boring. Plus, a good portion of the crew was up there listening, so there wasn't a whole lot of room left to have many of the planes up there. Heck, we didn't even have had most of our airwing left onboard. We were pulling into San Diego later on that morning and we had already flown off a good portion of them the day before, since San Diego was their home port, whereas, Everett, WA was ours.
    I see.....So it was just an innocent accident that it was right behind Bush for his speech?
    The ship's "Island" is an exciting backdrop?
    A "good portion" of the ship's crew would take up the entire flight deck?


    Sorry.....I'm just not buying what you're trying to sell today.
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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I see.....So it was just an innocent acident that it was right behind Bush for his speech?
    The ship's "Island" is an exciting backdrop?
    No the banner indicated that we had accomplished our mission. That was the whole point of it. It would have been much worse if we had taken the time to put it up there, and it didn't even get in a picture with him.

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No the banner indicated that we had accomplished our mission. That was the whole point of it. It would have been much worse if we had taken the time to put it up there, and it didn't even get in a picture with him.
    OK...I think we've both expressed our opinions. Let's not..

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    After almost 9 years & a worsening situation in that god-forsaken country, is it time to declare victory & leave?



    I would prefer an actual victory, a stable and democratc Afghanistan, than to declare a hollow victory and cut and run because the going got to tough for some.
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    This is an interesting one for me, because I'm not a military tactician, and it's not my job to make these kinds of decisions. But, I do listen to my two favorite military guys on the subject, and they're split, decisively. My boss is a former army colonel who spent time in Vietnam and was involved in military intelligence. My boyfriend is a navy commander who spent a year doing planning for the Army in Iraq (in Tikrit).

    They are evenly split on the issue. My boss believes that Afghanistan is where empires go to die, and that we are going to run into the same kind of quagmire we did in Vietnam there (and duplicate the Russian scenario).

    My boyfriend believes that Afghanistan is more important to stabilize than Iraq and that we need more troops there to do the job.

    Truthfully, I don't know what the answer is.

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I would prefer an actual victory, a stable and democratc Afghanistan,
    & I would prefer that gravity was suddenly reduced to about 1/2 of its present strength....that my car suddenly ran on water....that the oceans turned into fine wine.....that my lawn would mow itself...that....You get the point.

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    & I would prefer that gravity was suddenly reduced to about 1/2 of its present strength....that my car suddenly ran on water....that the oceans turned into fine wine.....that my lawn would mow itself...that....You get the point.
    We get the point that you are either unable or unwilling to discuss the subject seriously.

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    We get the point that you are either unable or unwilling to discuss the subject seriously.
    Then you obviously need to scroll back & re-read my posts on this thread. I was the OP & even my last post had quite a serious point.
    Last edited by Devil505; 09-21-09 at 10:35 AM.

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