View Poll Results: Should the U.S. pull it's troops out of Afganistan?

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  • Yes. There is no possible victory there for us.

    11 17.19%
  • No. Stay & finish the job

    35 54.69%
  • Yes. Leave a mobil force in the area to fight terrorists/Taliban but leave Afganistan.

    15 23.44%
  • Pull all troops out of the area. It's not our fight.

    10 15.63%
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Thread: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Much as I hate to agree with 10, I think this is the best answer. I doubt any one here(with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions, you know who you are) really know enough about the situation there to make a call. I am really split on the issue, it's one where I can see both sides.
    I usually agree with you but not this time. I think, on an issue as important as war, that we citizens have a moral obligation to reasonably educate ourselves to the best of our ability & then make our wishes known to our elected representatives.
    The alternative is simply to relinquish all power to "people who know better" who....unfortunately.....don't often know better than we do.

    Example:
    If one wishes to contact his/her President/Senator...(whatever)
    You could always word your correspondence with a bit of a disclaimer but still get your point across...ie
    "If the news is being reported accurately, it appears that we are making more enemies than we are winning hearts & minds, killing more innocent civilians than Taliban/Al Quieda & wasting the lives of our GI's & our national treasure with no real exit strategy in mind. If I am wrong please explain where...... but if I am right, please get our troops out ASAP."
    Last edited by Devil505; 09-09-09 at 04:53 PM.

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I usually agree with you but not this time. I think, on an issue as important as war, that we citizens have a moral obligation to reasonably educate ourselves to the best of our ability & then make our wishes known to our elected representatives.
    The alternative is simply to relinquish all power to "people who know better" who....unfortunately.....don't often know better than we do.

    Example:
    If one wishes to contact his/her President/Senator...(whatever)
    You could always word your correspondence with a bit of a disclaimer but still get your point across...ie
    "If the news is being reported accurately, it appears that we are making more enemies than we are winning hearts & minds, killing more innocent civilians than Taliban/Al Quieda & wasting the lives of our GI's & our national treasure with no real exit strategy in mind. If I am wrong please explain where...... but if I am right, please get our troops out ASAP."
    You misunderstand what I am saying. We can and should offer our opinions, and vote for those who represent those opinions. However, the politicians should make the final determinate based on the advice they get from those who actually know more than us.

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You misunderstand what I am saying. We can and should offer our opinions, and vote for those who represent those opinions. However, the politicians should make the final determinate based on the advice they get from those who actually know more than us.
    Maybe I'm slow today but I think politicians will always make decisions based upon your (above mentioned) determinants......but.....one of the major determinants to any decision (in a democracy.... that should be heavily considered by the policy maker) should be the wishes of the voters who put them in power in the first place.
    Experts can be wrong & if you get the views of 5 "Experts" on any subject you usually will get 5 different opinions.

    In the final analysis, as messy & imperfect as democracy is, ..the collective wishes of the voters are more often than not correct & should at least be heavily considered by policy makers b4 a policy is implemented.
    Last edited by Devil505; 09-09-09 at 05:23 PM.

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Maybe I'm slow today but I think politicians will always make decisions based upon your (above mentioned) determinants......but.....one of the major determinants to any decision (in a democracy.... that should be heavily considered by the policy maker) should be the wishes of the voters who put them in power in the first place.
    Experts can be wrong & if you get the views of 5 "Experts" on any subject you usually will get 5 different opinions.

    In the final analysis, as messy & imperfect as democracy is, ..the collective wishes of the voters are more often than not correct & should at least be heavily considered by policy makers b4 a policy is implemented.
    The wishes of the voters cannot be ignored, but in our government type, we don't vote on the issues, but on the people to represent us. We have to have some faith that they will use their superior access to information to make the right decisions.

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Good God no! The only reason Afghanistan began to go poorly in the first place was the lack of focus given to it by the military in favor of Iraq. Despite what you say, Devil, this is a war US and international forces are capable of fighting. If it weren't for the Bush administration's focus on Iraq I would have bet dollars to donuts that Afghanistan would be a fairly stable region (by middle eastern standards) by now.
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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    Good God no! The only reason Afghanistan began to go poorly in the first place was the lack of focus given to it by the military in favor of Iraq. Despite what you say, Devil, this is a war US and international forces are capable of fighting. If it weren't for the Bush administration's focus on Iraq I would have bet dollars to donuts that Afghanistan would be a fairly stable region (by middle eastern standards) by now.
    I agree that if we hadn't gotten hijacked into Iraq & had focused our attention on Afghanistan like we should have, 9 years ago, things would probably have turned out allot better.

    BUT

    The facts is that NOW, the Taliban has dramatically resurfaced, the Afghan people seem to be tired of us being there, Al Quieda is mainly in the untouchable tribal region of Pakistan & we are losing more & more U.S. troops every month. NATO doesn't really want to take the lead there & I just don't see a realistic way to "Win" over there.
    If we can't "Win".....I say ...declare victory & get the hell out!
    (maybe we could even find Bush's "Mission Accomplished" banner & use it again~!)
    Last edited by Devil505; 09-09-09 at 06:27 PM.

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Meh. We should devote more resources to developing infrastructure. And use
    that infrastructure to recoup those resources via trade/oil. Afghanistan ends up with useable travel roads and can migrate social services much more easily. Its much easier to go to school when you have a road.

    All those russian tanks lying around can probably be recycled into something.
    Last edited by akyron; 09-09-09 at 06:29 PM.
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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Meh. We should devote more resources to developing infrastructure.
    We almost went into another great depression......We need to spend our money on OUR infrastructure!!...Screw the caves of Afghanistan!
    If we're going to "Nation Build" lets do it right here & rebuild ours!
    Last edited by Devil505; 09-09-09 at 06:32 PM.

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    Re: Should We Get Out Of Afganistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    We almost went into another great depression......We need to spend our money on OUR infrastructure!!...Screw the caves of Afghanistan!
    If we're going to "Nation Build" lets do it right here & rebuild ours!
    Yes, we should get out.
    The sooner the better.

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