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    Straight Ticket Voting

    Would you support eliminating "straight ticket voting" altogether? In some states, the ballots have an option for "vote straight-ticket Democrat" and "vote straight-ticket Republican". Not only does this help keep in tact the juggernaut that our two-party system restrains us to, but it also allows candidates who are not qualified to get into public office. It eliminates the need for people to actually research the candidates and the issues and just vote for "their party".
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    Re: Straight Ticket Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by P/N View Post
    Would you support eliminating "straight ticket voting" altogether? In some states, the ballots have an option for "vote straight-ticket Democrat" and "vote straight-ticket Republican". Not only does this help keep in tact the juggernaut that our two-party system restrains us to, but it also allows candidates who are not qualified to get into public office. It eliminates the need for people to actually research the candidates and the issues and just vote for "their party".
    Out of curiosity, what state or county actually has such a system?
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    Re: Straight Ticket Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Out of curiosity, what state or county actually has such a system?
    Alabama, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, West Virginia and Wisconsin
    Straight-ticket voting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Missouri used to have this, but according to Wiki, no longer does.
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    Re: Straight Ticket Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by P/N View Post
    Would you support eliminating "straight ticket voting" altogether? In some states, the ballots have an option for "vote straight-ticket Democrat" and "vote straight-ticket Republican". Not only does this help keep in tact the juggernaut that our two-party system restrains us to, but it also allows candidates who are not qualified to get into public office. It eliminates the need for people to actually research the candidates and the issues and just vote for "their party".
    Your solution won't fix the problem. People will vote for who they choose, and making it less convenient for a few who want to vote strait ticket won't stop that.

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    Re: Straight Ticket Voting

    I agree with Redress. Instead of checking one box, they'll just check all of the Ds or Rs. All the proposal does is make voters spend more time checking boxes they'd normally check.

    And people don't research the candidates regardless. Democracy in any form is only as good as its voters and our voters suck. Modifying the system doesn't solve the problem when the problem is voters. As voters, we could easily kick out the scumbag 1 party *cough* I mean "two" party system under current structure. We don't.
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    Re: Straight Ticket Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    And people don't research the candidates regardless. Democracy in any form is only as good as its voters and our voters suck. Modifying the system doesn't solve the problem when the problem is voters. As voters, we could easily kick out the scumbag 1 party *cough* I mean "two" party system under current structure. We don't.
    Really? I guess I'm not "people" then. Sure, I'm in the minority because I do take a look at things like the candidates, their views on certain issues and other factors, but I won't vote for someone with an 'R' or a 'D' next to their name unless I know where they stand. I simply think that taking away the option to vote straight ticket might make a few do some research. And a few more is better than the few that we have now is it not?
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    Re: Straight Ticket Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by P/N View Post
    Really? I guess I'm not "people" then. Sure, I'm in the minority because I do take a look at things like the candidates, their views on certain issues and other factors, but I won't vote for someone with an 'R' or a 'D' next to their name unless I know where they stand.
    Clearly, you are in the minority. Look at Kansas. They keep voting Republican when many of the policies their state Republicans are essentially screwing them over. Look at California. Their state legislature is full of Democrats who essentially spent them into bankruptcy. Yet both have exceedingly high rates of incumbency DESPITE as a party doing awful things to their respective states. Clearly, people in those states are not researching their candidates.

    Hell, at this point, if you are seriously considering voting for a third party, you're in the minority and clearly are more willing to research candidates then most people.

    But you do have to remember that it takes time and effort to keep up with all of the stances and platforms candidates have. And I'm just going to say it. Americans are lazy (we're human after all, well most of us ).

    I simply think that taking away the option to vote straight ticket might make a few do some research. And a few more is better than the few that we have now is it not?
    Maybe. Making everyone run independent would be even better as there's no psychological anchor or framing. When every candidate is not backed by a party and cannot be stereotyped, you have to research everyone.
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    Re: Straight Ticket Voting

    No, I want to know how to get the feature on our ballots.

    When another part cares to present me with a serious choice, I may need to consider individual candidates more carefully.
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    Re: Straight Ticket Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    But you do have to remember that it takes time and effort to keep up with all of the stances and platforms candidates have. And I'm just going to say it. Americans are lazy
    In the age of the Internet it might only take ten or fifteen minutes of research to make an informed decision.

    A lot of people will still vote for one party only, but I don't see why this practice should be encouraged.

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    Re: Straight Ticket Voting

    I want to say maybe so I picked other. I think that the same people with the mentality of (caveman voice)"republicans good,democrats evil" or "democrats good, republicans evil" will simply just pick all democrat or all republican. So I do not know if it will do any good. It would be worth to try eliminating straight ticketing voting in a few states to see if there is actually any change.
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