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    Re: Straight Ticket Voting

    Straight ticket voting is stupid, OK for the lazy, who wish to be poorly informed and they do have that right.

    Who wants to remove this right ?

    And, in this day and age, it is more difficult to be informed than ever.
    We need election/campaign reform, even before health care reform.

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    Re: Straight Ticket Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    In the age of the Internet it might only take ten or fifteen minutes of research to make an informed decision.

    A lot of people will still vote for one party only, but I don't see why this practice should be encouraged.
    People are intellectually lazy. It's not that it can't be done, but when you regurgitating partisan tripe like FOX News or MSNBC there's no need for you to think. I know a quite a few people like this (mostly, a lot of my extended family from Missouri), they just don't want to bother thinking about the problem. I don't know why, not when it's something as important as electing officials to office. But they'd rather go by the R or the D and vote along those lines. You ain't got to think if your a straight party voter.

    Course, if you're really thinking and researching things, the R and the D option will probably just make you sick.
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    Re: Straight Ticket Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Straight ticket voting is stupid, OK for the lazy, who wish to be poorly informed and they do have that right.

    Who wants to remove this right ?

    And, in this day and age, it is more difficult to be informed than ever.
    We need election/campaign reform, even before health care reform.
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    Re: Straight Ticket Voting

    I'd support getting rid of it. Yes, you would think it would simply have people individually checking each box one party, but I don't have that much faith in the American voter. I would bet there would be a statistically significant difference in less straight ticket voting purely by removing such an option.
    Laziness and inertia define the American voter, and even something as trivial as checking a bunch of boxes is enough to make them change how they vote.

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    Re: Straight Ticket Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    In the age of the Internet it might only take ten or fifteen minutes of research to make an informed decision.
    Okay, explain to me why people don't do this now. It takes a conscious effort to research. Hell, people HERE can't even take the time to research if the article they are posting is exceedingly one sided and if you're willing to post on a political forum, you're not the average guy. So if we cannot even do it...what makes you think others can?
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    Re: Straight Ticket Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Okay, explain to me why people don't do this now. It takes a conscious effort to research. Hell, people HERE can't even take the time to research if the article they are posting is exceedingly one sided and if you're willing to post on a political forum, you're not the average guy.
    Refusal to look up a candidate and ability to look up a candidate are not the same thing.

    So if we cannot even do it...what makes you think others can?
    How hard is it to type "issues candidates" on google ?
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    Re: Straight Ticket Voting

    You guys have too much faith in the average voter. In California, every voter is sent a packet filled with useful information. It contains the text of every proposed proposition, as well as a summary and a nice selection of for against arguments. Even with everything you need literally delivered to your doorstep, many Californians don't have a clue what the propositions are actually about.

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    Re: Straight Ticket Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Refusal to look up a candidate and ability to look up a candidate are not the same thing.
    Be that as it may, the average's end result is not to research.

    How hard is it to type "issues candidates" on google ?
    How hard it is to type "Obama Import/Export Bank Brazil" into Google?
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    Re: Straight Ticket Voting

    I generally vote "straight-ticket," even though NY doesn't have an option that makes it simple. Why? Because it's absolutely pointless to try to research the policy positions of anyone below the level of a Congressman, or maybe a State senator. I don't really give a **** what the candidates for Deputy Asst. Dist. Representative for the 83rd Precinct think about the issues - they don't do dick anyways.

    However, I do think it would be a good policy decision to remove the option to vote for an entire party top to bottom. It might not make people do research, but they will be less likely to bother filling out the bottom of the ballot and there will thus be less votes for those positions.
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    Re: Straight Ticket Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    You guys have too much faith in the average voter. In California, every voter is sent a packet filled with useful information. It contains the text of every proposed proposition, as well as a summary and a nice selection of for against arguments. Even with everything you need literally delivered to your doorstep, many Californians don't have a clue what the propositions are actually about.
    We do the same in NYC. I love it because it means that more people are exposed to this:

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