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    Re: The Democrat's true interest

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The Democratic party's 'true interest' is to gain and maintain as much political power as it can.
    Everything it does is a means to that end.
    I beleive you just described just about every politician on the planet

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    Re: The Democrat's true interest

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    I beleive you just described just about every politician on the planet
    However true that may be, the issue here is the motivation of Democratic part, and my post certainly decribes it.


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    Re: The Democrat's true interest

    Concerned for the country... yes and misguided; concern for the US Constitution....no.
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    Re: The Democrat's true interest

    Well...progressive income tax is technically against the constitution, because Article I. Section 8 states that all taxes must be uniform:
    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States
    I don't see how giving richer people higher tax rates can be supported by the constitution. And democrats seem to be more supportive of a progressive income tax.

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    Re: The Democrat's true interest

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    Well...progressive income tax is technically against the constitution, because Article I. Section 8 states that all taxes must be uniform:

    I don't see how giving richer people higher tax rates can be supported by the constitution. And democrats seem to be more supportive of a progressive income tax.
    I have a question, that section includes taxes when saying Congress can do it but when it talks about things being uniform it doesn't say taxes, so does it gave to be uniform if it doesn't say taxes?

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    Re: The Democrat's true interest

    Smetimesyes, sometimes no. They're a political party, so one of their primary interests of obviously the welfare of the party and increasing it's strength, power and scope, as well as their own standing within the party. And I'd say that about all parties. They arent always going to be focused on our interests and welfare. We need to hold their feet to the fire when they lapse, and make it clear that as our employees, their position isn't guaranteed unless they keep us happy.

    Although I cetainly trust the Democrats more than I do the Republicans, in terms of minimising the US's danger to the rest of the world. So my opinion of them is obviously higher.
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    Re: The Democrat's true interest

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    Well...progressive income tax is technically against the constitution, because Article I. Section 8 states that all taxes must be uniform:

    I don't see how giving richer people higher tax rates can be supported by the constitution. And democrats seem to be more supportive of a progressive income tax.
    Look at that section closely. It grants Congress the power to lay and collect four types of revenue: Taxes, duties, imposts, and excises. But it only says that duties, imposts, and excises must be uniform; they specifically did not include taxes on that list. I highly doubt this was just an oversight on their part...I would interpret this section as an acknowledgment that taxes will NOT necessarily always be uniform.
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    Re: The Democrat's true interest

    I think both parties have the ideals that the constitution entitles. By debating and creating new arguments, deciding over factors and voting, we are continuing the ideals of the Constitution.
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