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Thread: What Political Party Would You Consider Yourself Now A Member Of?

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    Re: What Political Party Would You Consider Yourself Now A Member Of?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The problem is, the Republicans have sold out their principles attempting to woo minority votes. Bush, not only trying to provide cheap labor to his corporate buddies, was also trying to attract Hispanic votes by flushing border control down the toilet.

    & then came Justice Sonya Sotomayer & all that went out the window for the GOP.
    (I honestly can't remember the last good tactical political move made by the GOP....They really are just to dumb to govern!)
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    Re: What Political Party Would You Consider Yourself Now A Member Of?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    As a Republican, can you honestly say you are happy with the direction & tone that your party leaders have taken the GOP in?
    Knowing that any party needs moderates & minority groups (Black/Hispanic/etc) to win any future election, do you honestly feel the GOP is winning any over?
    I consider the GOP the lesser of two evils. And yes, I do feel we will be winning back moderates as President Obama's term progresses.

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    Re: What Political Party Would You Consider Yourself Now A Member Of?

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    I consider the GOP the lesser of two evils. And yes, I do feel we will be winning back moderates as President Obama's term progresses.
    You are not alone in considering the 2 parties as evils but I think you have picked the wrong side. I don't think the GOP will be getting any moderates with their far right agenda & rhetoric & appeal to only elderly white rural male evangelicals..
    I think Obama's Presidency will be very successful & you just have to look at our economy as an example. Last winter we were on the verge of total collapse & another great depression...but now...things are getting better. Recovery is slow but it's underway & even Fox News can't hide that little truth.

    A few predictions within the next 4 years:

    1. All our troops will be out of Iraq & all our combat troops. will be out of Afghanistan .
    2. Universally available & affordable HC will be a reality & we will all be saving HC money.
    3. Our country will again be respected in the world & we will be making friends instead of suicidal enemies.
    4. Law & order will mean something again.
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    Re: What Political Party Would You Consider Yourself Now A Member Of?

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    I consider the GOP the lesser of two evils. And yes, I do feel we will be winning back moderates as President Obama's term progresses.
    The lesser of two evils is still evil.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: What Political Party Would You Consider Yourself Now A Member Of?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The lesser of two evils is still evil.
    Then I suggest you listen to one who is an authority on evil....

    Less evil is better than more evil.

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    Re: What Political Party Would You Consider Yourself Now A Member Of?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Then I suggest you listen to one who is an authority on evil....

    Less evil is better than more evil.
    That's not necessarily true, less evil can be just as destructive. And I don't necessarily believe we should be forced into supporting evil.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: What Political Party Would You Consider Yourself Now A Member Of?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    & then came Justice Sonya Sotomayer & all that went out the window for the GOP.
    (I honestly can't remember the last good tactical political move made by the GOP....They really are just to dumb to govern!)
    I don't know that's true. Sotomayor did make some racially questionable comments, like it or not, and should have been questioned, just like any candidate of any other skin color who made similar statements.

    I will agree that, for the most part, the GOP leadership is clueless, but they think God is on their side so they don't have to actually compete in the arena of ideas, God is going to deliver victory to them if they just believe hard enough.

    Unfortunately for them, God's been doing a piss-poor job lately.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: What Political Party Would You Consider Yourself Now A Member Of?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The lesser of two evils is still evil.
    Sure, but when *ALL* of your choices are evil, what do you do then?
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: What Political Party Would You Consider Yourself Now A Member Of?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Sure, but when *ALL* of your choices are evil, what do you do then?
    Revolt

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    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: What Political Party Would You Consider Yourself Now A Member Of?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    You are not alone in considering the 2 parties as evils but I think you have picked the wrong side. I don't think the GOP will be getting any moderates with their far right agenda & rhetoric & appeal to only elderly white rural male evangelicals..
    I haven't picked the wrong side, unless I was wrong to pick a side at all. moderates will be tired of Obama's big-government answers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I think Obama's Presidency will be very successful & you just have to look at our economy as an example. Last winter we were on the verge of total collapse & another great depression...but now...things are getting better. Recovery is slow but it's underway & even Fox News can't hide that little truth.

    A few predictions within the next 4 years:

    1. All our troops will be out of Iraq & all our combat troops. will be out of Afghanistan .
    2. Universally available & affordable HC will be a reality & we will all be saving HC money.
    3. Our country will again be respected in the world & we will be making friends instead of suicidal enemies.
    4. Law & order will mean something again.
    those four items may be your goals for the country but they aren't everyone's. I do not like his policy on Iraq, I dread what he will do to healthcare, I care little for the "respect" of Europe, I am not comforted by the assurance that he is making the government stronger.

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