View Poll Results: Who is the best choice for republicans in 2012

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  • Sarah Palin

    2 6.67%
  • Newt Gingrich

    0 0%
  • Mitt Romney

    17 56.67%
  • Mike Huckabee

    3 10.00%
  • Joe Scarborough

    0 0%
  • David Petraeus

    4 13.33%
  • Mitch Daniels

    1 3.33%
  • Rick Santorum

    3 10.00%
  • Bob Corker

    0 0%
  • Rudy Giuliani

    0 0%
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Thread: Best Early pick for Republicans in 2012

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    Re: Best Early pick for Republicans in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    I think that the pendulum will swing back soon enough. I doubt that Ron Paul stands a cold chance in Hell
    It probably will swing back, but I'm not sure people will eagerly accept another neo-con administration who promises armed conflict with Iran, an agressive stance towards Russia and China, and a continuation of the Patriot Act (although Obama did renew it, he campaigned against it). I'm not so sure that is going to get the job done. I would consider Romney and Huckabee to be the early favorites, and I didn't quite see how their administration would differ significantly from the Bush administration. And I highly doubt the American people would want another Bush administration.

    I won't dispute you on Ron Paul. But I don't think it's because of his ideas, I think it's the messenger. He has no chance, but I think his ideas do. If someone else could arise who is perhaps more "presidential", I think that platform would win a general election. However, it won't happen in 2012. Maybe in 2016, after Obama's 2nd term, the Republicans will admit their platform sucks and change their ideology.

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    Re: Best Early pick for Republicans in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    I'm not voting for any republican or democrat unless s\he has a proven track-record of pragmatically pushing libertarian solutions at every opportunity. There's only one person who currently fits this description: Ron Paul.
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    Re: Best Early pick for Republicans in 2012

    Ron Paul has a greater influence on history by losing than McBama has by winning. They don't make a single significant decision, they are actors playing a role. Ron Paul is his own man. He will be remembered thousands of years from now as one of the first visible libertarian politicians, just like Socrates is remembered to this day while that generation of the ruling politicians in Athens is not.

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    Re: Best Early pick for Republicans in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    Ron Paul has a greater influence on history by losing than McBama has by winning. They don't make a single significant decision, they are actors playing a role. Ron Paul is his own man. He will be remembered thousands of years from now as one of the first visible libertarian politicians, just like Socrates is remembered to this day while that generation of the ruling politicians in Athens is not.

    ....and people called Obama supporters a cult.....
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    Re: Best Early pick for Republicans in 2012

    A cult of personality is when you agree with someone uncritically and give them power over your life. It is very well documented that I have always been critical of Ron Paul on a number of issues (ex. I support phasing out all limits to immigration, etc). Furthermore, I support Ron Paul precisely because his intention is to reduce the power that the cult of the state currently has over my (and everyone else's) life!
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    Re: Best Early pick for Republicans in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Which has the best chance of winning? Patraeus, hands down. Too bad he has no chance of actually running.
    I disagree about Petraeus. Candidates who have no experience in politics generally make lousy candidates IMO. Look at the lackluster performance of Wesley Clark.
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    Re: Best Early pick for Republicans in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    A cult of personality is when you agree with someone uncritically and give them power over your life. It is very well documented that I have always been critical of Ron Paul on a number of issues (ex. I support phasing out all limits to immigration, etc). Furthermore, I support Ron Paul precisely because his intention is to reduce the power that the cult of the state currently has over my (and everyone else's) life!
    You just compared Ron Paul to Socrates.
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    Re: Best Early pick for Republicans in 2012

    Why isn't Joe the Plumber and Alan Keyes on your list?

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    Re: Best Early pick for Republicans in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I disagree about Petraeus. Candidates who have no experience in politics generally make lousy candidates IMO. Look at the lackluster performance of Wesley Clark.
    Not to mention his views aren't widely known or if he's even a Republican.

    But then again, someone who hand picked a guy like retired Lt Col. John A. Nagl as part of his brain trust can't be all bad.
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    Re: Best Early pick for Republicans in 2012

    Ron Paul? If he weren't so lazy, he could fund his own campaign. He should stop trying to steal the voters' hard-earned money and pull himself up by his bootstraps.

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