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    Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    The idea is this: Any party out of power is going to be critical of those in power. This is the natural order, and simply put, it's easier to get a negative message out, and often more effective. What I wonder these days is if the natural tendency to do this has not escalated to the point where it will end up hurting the republicans. For some examples:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pol...nly-540-a.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...sm-edited.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pol...eader-wtf.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...-8-2009-a.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/conspi...n-too-old.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/conspi...gain-hosp.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-par...lim-roots.html

    Stepping away from our liberal or conservatives ideologies, how do you think the independents and middle of the road types view these types of attacks? Is making attacks on these type of issues the right thing to do for republicans, is it going too far and going to hurt republicans, or won't it have any effect?

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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    I personally hope that it does hurt them. And in it's place a new party forms. But not because of the criticism that they have given Obama. I personally think that he deserves 98.9% of it. I think that both the Democrats and the Republicans need to be replaced.
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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    There definitely can be some blowback from this kitchen sink approach they are trying.

    It didn't work for Hillary.
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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The idea is this: Any party out of power is going to be critical of those in power. This is the natural order, and simply put, it's easier to get a negative message out, and often more effective. What I wonder these days is if the natural tendency to do this has not escalated to the point where it will end up hurting the republicans. For some examples:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pol...nly-540-a.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...sm-edited.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pol...eader-wtf.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...-8-2009-a.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/conspi...n-too-old.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/conspi...gain-hosp.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-par...lim-roots.html

    Stepping away from our liberal or conservatives ideologies, how do you think the independents and middle of the road types view these types of attacks? Is making attacks on these type of issues the right thing to do for republicans, is it going too far and going to hurt republicans, or won't it have any effect?

    Edit: poll added.

    Some of that stuff is no different than what the Bush bashers did when Bush was in office. Although for every one lie about about Obama made by die hard Obama bashers you can find several lies about Bush made by die hard Bush bashers(to be fair though Obama is still in his first year). For example-

    Obama is a muslim
    Obama is not a natural born citizen






    It was despicable when the die hard Bush bashers did this sort of nonsense and it is just as despicable when the die hard Obama bashers do this kind of nonsense.
    Last edited by jamesrage; 09-05-09 at 05:21 PM.
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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Some of that stuff is no different than what the Bush bashers did when Bush was in office. Although for every one lie about about Obama made by die hard Obama bashers you can find several lies about Bush made by die hard Bush bashers(to be fair though Obama is still in his first year). For example-

    Obama is a muslim
    Obama is not a natural born citizen




    It was despicable when the die hard Bush bashers did this sort of nonsense and it is just as despicable when the die hard Obama bashers do this kind of nonsense.
    I am not debating that point(though I will quickly point out that was 8 years vs how many months for Obama), but that is not the question. You are right, those who go too far criticizing Bush, well, they went too far. What I want to know though, is in this case, this many of what looks to me to be trivial and silly things in this short of time, it it too much?

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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Your Kidding right hell the first week that Mr. W Bush was in office teh Left was attacking him and hasn't let up since.

    All the threads you cite have legitment discussion nothing triva about them.

    As for the whole Birth Cert. let me just make this one statement for three years the Democrat keep asking for Mr. Bush to release his Military records to prove that he didn't go AWOL after they became public the story died and it cost Dan Rather his Job. Now if I was someoen with-in the upperpart of the DNC I would be telling Mr. Obama to order allof his records to be release including the Long Form Birth Cert. this would either kill the story or cause another more damaging story.

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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Your Kidding right hell the first week that Mr. W Bush was in office teh Left was attacking him and hasn't let up since.

    All the threads you cite have legitment discussion nothing triva about them.

    As for the whole Birth Cert. let me just make this one statement for three years the Democrat keep asking for Mr. Bush to release his Military records to prove that he didn't go AWOL after they became public the story died and it cost Dan Rather his Job. Now if I was someoen with-in the upperpart of the DNC I would be telling Mr. Obama to order allof his records to be release including the Long Form Birth Cert. this would either kill the story or cause another more damaging story.
    Again, I am not right now talking about what happened under Bush. I am talking about current events.

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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am not debating that point(though I will quickly point out that was 8 years vs how many months for Obama), but that is not the question.

    Didn't liberals harp on Sarah Palin's clothes, her kids, her church(even though they have never said or did anything controversial) and made fun of her extensively on Saturday night live and other shows?



    You are right, those who go too far criticizing Bush, well, they went too far.
    What I want to know though, is in this case, this many of what looks to me to be trivial and silly things in this short of time, it it too much?
    I think it is just the new standard in political bashing. Although I could be wrong, people probably lied about Clinton, before Clinton people probably lied about the other Bush, then Reagan and so on.
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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Yep, people unfairly attacked Bush and he got re-elected.

    Something to think about...
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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Again, I am not right now talking about what happened under Bush. I am talking about current events.
    The problem with saying "I want to talk about now, not then" is that nothing happens in a vacuum.
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