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Thread: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Yep, people unfairly attacked Bush and he got re-elected.

    Something to think about...
    Perhaps we need to start a thread on the glorious Bush years and why he deserved criticism over the term of his entire presidentcy? So we can cover the whole event and not just cherry pick only the parts that the Right finds convenient too talk about...I.E. "we can act like hagemonger idiots because LOOK the left did it too poor innocent George."

    Let's explore the Bush years and the reasons for criticism?..

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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    The problem with saying "I want to talk about now, not then" is that nothing happens in a vacuum.
    Sorta true, but while nothing happens in a vacuum, in this case, it has no bearing on the question I am asking. The question is about the effects of what is happening now, not on the effects of what happened 8 years ago.

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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Sorta true, but while nothing happens in a vacuum, in this case, it has no bearing on the question I am asking. The question is about the effects of what is happening now, not on the effects of what happened 8 years ago.
    Well, that would be what I mean about "nothing happens in a vacuum." Of course it has a bearing. You can't just take it all outside the context of the political arena and how it's evolved over the years. What's happening now may simply be the new norm after a decade of evolution.
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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Well, that would be what I mean about "nothing happens in a vacuum." Of course it has a bearing. You can't just take it all outside the context of the political arena and how it's evolved over the years. What's happening now may simply be the new norm after a decade of evolution.
    It will only be the norm if it is effective. I agree that this is how politics has been evolving, but I want to know if it has now gone too far. If it has, it won't be effective to my mind...in fact, that is how you could measure too far, if it backfires, it is too far, if it works, it is just right.

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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Legitimate criticism of a President is not only acceptable it is encouraged. People who oppose the President's healthcare plans, economic plans, etc SHOULD speak out in opposition.

    Where these nutjob extremists are marginalizing the public is with their silly criticisms, e.g., OMG! Obama is going to speak to school kids about education, OMG! Obama doesn't have a birth certificate, OMG! Obama is a socialist...etc.

    I believe that these types of attacks are going to prove to hurt the GOP more than they will help. We are beginning to see this with the latest education "Controversey". Rational and Reasonable people are beginning to see just how ridiculous these right-wings are.
    For the sake of the Democrats....I encourage them to keep it up....even find a new controversy to yell and shout about!
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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Yeah, I think folks that criticize Obama over these insignificant non-issues go too far. In fact I find myself arguing more and more with right wingers on how their focus on idiotic partisan hackery is making themselves and all folks who are opposed to Obama's policies look bad. I think there are plenty of important issues where folks can criticize Obama for that they don't need to make up crap about what he eats or what shoes his wife wears or pretending giving a non partisan speech on education is somehow indoctrination of our youth.

    That said, Obama is sowing what liberals reaped for eight years under Bush. I know two wrongs don't make a right, but liberals helped create the sort of enviroment that this rancor is thriving in. I find it quite amusing that liberals who participated in or silently watched the inane non-issue attacks and slander against Bush now decry it when it happens to Obama. Just like I find it equally amusing that conservatives who once screamed that opposition was equal to treason now call dissent the highest form of patriotism. Hypocricy knows no political boundaries.
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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    This type of thing always happens but it was FAR more common when Bush was prez.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Frankly, threads on an internet forum have very little to do with real life and real policy by political leadership in either party. Most of us are otherwise unimportant people who like to read our own babbling, for lack of more constructive hobbies. Posting online is, for the most part, idle chatter by relatively unimportant people (myself included)

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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Frankly, threads on an internet forum have very little to do with real life and real policy by political leadership in either party. Most of us are otherwise unimportant people who like to read our own babbling, for lack of more constructive hobbies. Posting online is, for the most part, idle chatter by relatively unimportant people (myself included)
    True & even respected political polls offer very little real insight/forecast as to the future. The ONLY thing that really matters is when the voters actually goto he polls & cast actual votes. Looking at THOSE, the American voter has been overwhelmingly rejecting the GOP since 2006 & there is no reason to believe this will change since they (GOP) insist on sticking with the same rejected message (to their base only) & negative attack message tactics.
    The only hope the GOP has is for disaster to befall this country, & they appear to be hoping for just that.
    This the corner that Karl Rove style "Slash & Burn" strategy & tactics has boxed the GOP into, & we voters are not so stupid that we don't see it.
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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    LOL you're talking about a bunch of things people posted on a debate board to debate! When I read your subject line, I thought you were actually talking about something that effected people beyond this URL. These discussions on DP are not going to effect whether or not Obama gets re-elected.

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