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  • Yes, these type attacks in this number is harmfull to republicans

    34 51.52%
  • no, hitting the guy with everything they have is the way to go for republicans

    16 24.24%
  • It won't have much effect

    10 15.15%
  • Other/I don't know

    6 9.09%
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Thread: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The idea is this: Any party out of power is going to be critical of those in power. This is the natural order, and simply put, it's easier to get a negative message out, and often more effective. What I wonder these days is if the natural tendency to do this has not escalated to the point where it will end up hurting the republicans. For some examples:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pol...nly-540-a.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...sm-edited.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pol...eader-wtf.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...-8-2009-a.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/conspi...n-too-old.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/conspi...gain-hosp.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-par...lim-roots.html

    Stepping away from our liberal or conservatives ideologies, how do you think the independents and middle of the road types view these types of attacks? Is making attacks on these type of issues the right thing to do for republicans, is it going too far and going to hurt republicans, or won't it have any effect?

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    It didn't hurt the Dems. Why would it hurt the Republicans?

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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    It didn't hurt the Dems. Why would it hurt the Republicans?
    While some people called Bush a Nazi, it wasn't a staple view of the leftwing, and even those who used the term did not believe Bush sincerely adhered to the principles of a totalitarian ideology. The same can't be said for the Republicans and their accusations that Obama is a socialist.

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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    even those who used the term did not believe Bush sincerely adhered to the principles of a totalitarian ideology.
    Holy cow! In what universe is this true?
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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Just look at the number of DP forum members here who are now unwilling to be self-Identified as GOP members.

    Why is that??
    Your logic leaves my head hurting.

    What forum members have changed their status since these attacks and critcisms started? Those you could maybe, MAYBE, claim.

    But other than that your point is rather poor.

    I remember a few changed it when the Republicans nominated Joe Moderate, Mr. Bipartisan, McCain or did it when he scolded people for using "Hussien".

    I know others (I fall in this category) changed it some time before then when they either got fed up and/or left the Republican party due to the representitives of the party stopped upholding the principles they supported.

    I don't know of a single person on here that switched their political lean or affiliation because they feel the republicans criticisms have "Gone to far".

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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    In the mean time, I would point out that this thread's poll results back up the opinion that the GOP's anti-Obama rhetoric is hurting the GOP itself by an over 2 to 1 margin, & DP is hardly a left wing slanted forum.

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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    While some people called Bush a Nazi, it wasn't a staple view of the leftwing, and even those who used the term did not believe Bush sincerely adhered to the principles of a totalitarian ideology. The same can't be said for the Republicans and their accusations that Obama is a socialist.
    So only some on the Left called Bush a Nazi, but everyone on the Right calls him Mao.

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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    In the mean time, I would point out that this thread's poll results back up the opinion that the GOP's anti-Obama rhetoric is hurting the GOP itself by an over 2 to 1 margin, & DP is hardly a left wing slanted forum.
    It's also hardly a right wing one either. You don't know if the poll is representative of the forum or the country either.

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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    In the mean time, I would point out that this thread's poll results back up the opinion that the GOP's anti-Obama rhetoric is hurting the GOP itself by an over 2 to 1 margin, & DP is hardly a left wing slanted forum.
    Did you bother to look to see who answered, and how?
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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Yes, its quite strikings.

    Liberals think Republicans have gone too far and that they will be harmful.

    Wow. I'm shocked. I definitely needed a poll to tell me many of them think that way. Next you'll tell me there's a poll saying Republicans like Ronald Reagan

    A unscientific poll on Debate Politics which doesn't mandate everyone on the board to vote in it really tells us...nothing...other than what those individual people think.

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    Re: Have the Republican Gone Too Far in Criticizing Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Your logic leaves my head hurting.

    What forum members have changed their status since these attacks and critcisms started?
    I never said a word about changing their status??
    The simple mathematics of the very few self-identified Republicans here..... speaks volumes. How many Librarianship, Conservatives or even Moderates would have identified themselves as Repubs just a few years ago??....I woukld guess quite a few.



    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I remember a few changed it when the Republicans nominated Joe Moderate, Mr. Bipartisan, McCain or did it when he scolded people for using "Hussien".

    I know others (I fall in this category) changed it some time before then when they either got fed up and/or left the Republican party due to the representitives of the party stopped upholding the principles they supported.

    I don't know of a single person on here that switched their political lean or affiliation because they feel the republicans criticisms have "Gone to far".
    You listed some important reasons why the GOP has lost much of it's (non-far right) base of fiscal & moral conservatives.
    We all know that no political party can win a national election in this country without appealing to moderates, & the GOP is actually pushing them away....IMO.

    I know you have misidentified ME as a strong Democrat partisan, but you are quite wrong.
    I have quite a few conservative views on the death penalty, reasonable 2nd amendment rights & fiscal matters....in terms of where we should be spending our tax money.
    I have voted for Republicans in the past but now , there is no conservative, national political party that any truly moderate could support, so we vote Democratic by default in many cases.
    Last edited by Devil505; 09-08-09 at 04:45 PM.

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