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    Do Republicans want to kill ALL healthcare reform?

    Not just Obama's reform, but ANY form of healthcare at all, whether it comes from the private sector, TORT reform, or something else. I personally don't think so, considering the Republicans have had their own reform bill since may. Despite this, does anyone think that Republicans are against ALL healthcare reform, no matter what?

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    Re: Do Republicans want to kill ALL healthcare reform?

    Can a moderator please make the votes for this poll public? Thanks.

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    Re: Do Republicans want to kill ALL healthcare reform?

    I don't think either side wants actual reform. The Democrats want to change the current system fundamentally which would in no way just be reforming it, and the Republicans largely just want to keep the status quo and just let people buy insurance across state lines (big give away to the insurance industry there), and tort reform (which is needed).

    The insurance industry and other big players have flooded Washington with so much money over the years that any real reform is a pipe dream.
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    Re: Do Republicans want to kill ALL healthcare reform?

    Lets examine the Republican Plan, which really isn't a plan as much as its a short collection of slogans.

    Basically, they want Tort Reform, tax incentives for people in the individual market, high risk polls for those that have pre-existing conditions to the extent that they are unable to find anyone to insure them, and the ability to purchase insurance across state lines.

    Their critiques of the Democratic Plan are that:

    It's expensive - So are the Republican individual tax incentives.

    The Public Option will result in employers dropping group plans - Funny because that is the stated goal of providing incentives for individual market as their plan would.

    The Public Option would result in people losing their private coverage - And their high risk polls would not essentially result in the sick and disabled being in the same situation??

    The Public Option will kill Medicare - Uh... Republicans despise Medicare, they have for 40 years now, yet now they are supposed to be its guardians?

    The Democrats Plan will result in socialized medicine and ration care and institute "Death Panels" for seniors - As if seniors are not already on the world's largest socialized health insurance program yet no death panels, no rationing of care.

    I mean basically, the Democrats have a flawed plan, and the Republicans are a joke.

    This country is ungovernable anymore. The right wing has watered the tree of crazy over the years to the point that the nut jobs are just coming out of the woodwork. If anything meaningful is ever going to done about health care its probably going to be accomplished at the state and local levels of government. The best thing the Federal Government could do at this point is just leave it to the markets.
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    Re: Do Republicans want to kill ALL healthcare reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The Public Option will kill Medicare - Uh... Republicans despise Medicare, they have for 40 years now, yet now they are supposed to be its guardians?
    IMO Medicare is far more perferable over the current proposed HC bill.
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    Re: Do Republicans want to kill ALL healthcare reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    Not just Obama's reform, but ANY form of healthcare at all, whether it comes from the private sector, TORT reform, or something else. I personally don't think so, considering the Republicans have had their own reform bill since may. Despite this, does anyone think that Republicans are against ALL healthcare reform, no matter what?
    I say no. Reform does not have to be in the form of socialized medicine. It can be tort reform, letting people buy insurance across state lines(as others have pointed out), find ways to reduce medical school tuition and other methods to reduce health care cost so that it can be cheaper.
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    Re: Do Republicans want to kill ALL healthcare reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I say no. Reform does not have to be in the form of socialized medicine. It can be tort reform, letting people buy insurance across state lines(as others have pointed out), find ways to reduce medical school tuition and other methods to reduce health care cost so that it can be cheaper.
    How would allowing to buy insurance across state lines help unless each state has the same regulations over the insurance companies.

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    Re: Do Republicans want to kill ALL healthcare reform?

    I say yes, any real reform anyways. Just more of the status quo and more money finding its way to the insurance giants and pharmaceutical companies, wrapped-up in patriotic rhetoric with a nice bow.

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    Re: Do Republicans want to kill ALL healthcare reform?

    NO, we want to kill bad healthcare reform, mainly the public option.


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    Re: Do Republicans want to kill ALL health care reform?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I don't think either side wants actual reform. The Democrats want to change the current system fundamentally which would in no way just be reforming it, and the Republicans largely just want to keep the status quo and just let people buy insurance across state lines (big give away to the insurance industry there), and tort reform (which is needed). [COLOR="Red"]Absolutely !![COLOR]

    The insurance industry and other big players have flooded Washington with so much money over the years that any real reform is a pipe dream.
    Essentially, we are saying that election/campaign reform must precede any health care and HC insurance reform... this makes sense.
    Last edited by earthworm; 09-03-09 at 10:34 AM.

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