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Is the Republic of China (Taiwan) worth protecting?

That was then, this is now. Two totally different ballgames.

Also, it has a lot to do with the fact that the Chinese written language is not phonetic.
Ah, but written language merges after spoken.

The Chinese nation may well have left a taste for domination behind. And they may not. To be honest, when deal9ing with such a large number of people, it will take generations to discover what cultural chages are deep seated and which are ephemeral.


On the other hand, one must cons9der that the one child policy, and the preference for sons has created an unnatural demographic in China. There are many millions of men now who can never hope for what we consider a normal life, with wife and children.

To be frank, war could be very appealing to the Chinese as a method of eliminating the surplus male population.
 
Considering the cozy nature of Chinese and American capital (and their respective governments) I would probably expect the American government to not even comment on this issue were it to happen, or offer some kind of watered down statement pandering to both the Chinese government and to those opposing it (something like "We disagree with this move by China but offer no support to either side"). Basically, the US would probably take a neutral position on this while at the same time continuing their relationship with China as an economic partner.
 
Ah, but written language merges after spoken.
The history of China must be the outlier, then.
The Chinese nation may well have left a taste for domination behind. And they may not. To be honest, when deal9ing with such a large number of people, it will take generations to discover what cultural chages are deep seated and which are ephemeral.

On the other hand, one must cons9der that the one child policy, and the preference for sons has created an unnatural demographic in China. There are many millions of men now who can never hope for what we consider a normal life, with wife and children.

To be frank, war could be very appealing to the Chinese as a method of eliminating the surplus male population.
I think this speculation is off. China's reach has always exceeded its grasp, even today. The last thing they would want to do is add more territory, especially with the western areas about a frog's hair away from open rebellion.
 
I think that once a great superpower thought it could buy peace in its time by allowing the Sudetenland to be annexed by its aggressive neighbor, and so the great power abandoned its defensive obligations to Czechoslovakia, and tens of millions of people died needlessly as a result.

Agreed. if China invades Taiwan, almost regardless of the circumstances, then that means that China is then a threat to neighboring countries, and we must oppose that.
 
Agreed. if China invades Taiwan, almost regardless of the circumstances, then that means that China is then a threat to neighboring countries, and we must oppose that.
Taiwan isn't a country.
 
I have a question. If Texas were to actually secede from the current Union, would the U.S. not take action to take it back? If we did so would we be a threat to Mexico and Canada? This is what we are speculating in regards to China. Besides, you are all missing the point that Taiwan is moving ever closer back to China. There are now open flights back and forth, as well as ever growing economic ties. The economics alone will create a barrier to a Chinese invasion, as doing so would hurt the Chinese economy from the created instability.
 
What do you guys think?
Taiwan is an ally, and a western democracy.
If the US will not protect its allies, especially those that are western democracies, then we need to leave NATO and every other alliance we are in.
 
We should also take of our pants, bend over and hand China and Russia some KY Jelly.
As long as they stay on their side of the border, where's the problem?
 
When you show weakness and stick your head in the sand a predator will surely rip you to shreds. The US must maintain Hegemony or we lose everything.
China and Russia are predators? Funny.
 
It might have been in another set of circumstances, but we have made commitments, and the Taiwanese have acted according to them. Thus by our own acts, it has indeed become our business. Responsibility is burdensome.

It was never our business. So we simply tell them that. We are not going to war with China over Taiwan.
 
Sorry about asserting a fact into the mix. I'll remember that it bothers you.

I just like when people post, that their "facts" are actually related to the discussion.


Countries are created completely by people anyway, so they do not exist as absolutes, and that is why they need to be aknowedged by a nation for them to be accepted.

We (United States) has aknowedged the existance of the country of Taiwan, so in my eyes they are a country. They are not a country to China of course though.
 
I just like when people post, that their "facts" are actually related to the discussion.


Countries are created completely by people anyway, so they do not exist as absolutes, and that is why they need to be aknowedged by a nation for them to be accepted.

We (United States) has aknowedged the existance of the country of Taiwan, so in my eyes they are a country. They are not a country to China of course though.

The U.S. does not view Taiwan as a soverign nation. We are completely observant of the One China policy and have been since the Nixon administration.

Jue | The "One China" Policy: Terms of Art

To understand how the “one China” principle is intertwined with the vital interests of the U.S., one needs to look back to Henry Kissinger’s secret mission to Beijing in July 1971, when Kissinger told Premier Zhou Enlai that the United States did not seek “a two-Chinas, one- China or one-Taiwan solution, nor an independent Taiwan.” At that time, Zhou already showed a concern for China’s sovereignty over Taiwan as well as a future Japanese role in the region. He wanted assurances that China’s claim of territorial integrity, including Taiwan, was respected and that Washington would not support any movement that was inconsistent with the concept of one China, even though the nascent independence movement on the island was relatively small and insignificant. According to a National Security Archive report issued on Dec. 11, 2003, we now know that President Richard Nixon assured Chinese leaders in February 1972 that he would indeed work against such an outcome. (These statements were closely held until a mandatory declassification review was completed by the Nixon presidential materials staff in 2003.)

As you can see, we grant no such recognition to Taiwan.
 
I just like when people post, that their "facts" are actually related to the discussion.
Taiwan not being a country isn't related to this discussion? That's an interesting take. :roll:

Thanks to tlmorg02 for setting you straight.
 
I imagine we'll be fine defending our own borders from within said borders.

Well, long before we need to worry about someone invading us, that's for sure.
 
Your imagination is wrong. France had the same grand strategy relying on the Maginot line. OUr nuclear deterant is not all it is built up to be.
The example you gave isn't even remotely relevant.

Pull out of NATO and the various treaties we've entered into and I bet we'll have the money and manpower to build up a military sufficient for our needs.
 
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