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    Re: Is the Republic of China (Taiwan) worth protecting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    China and Russia are predators? Funny.
    Every nations is a predator.


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    Re: Is the Republic of China (Taiwan) worth protecting?

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Every nations is a predator.
    Yeah, I go to bed fearing Finland and Denmark, too.
    Wow. Am I awesome or what?

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    Re: Is the Republic of China (Taiwan) worth protecting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Sorry about asserting a fact into the mix. I'll remember that it bothers you.
    I just like when people post, that their "facts" are actually related to the discussion.


    Countries are created completely by people anyway, so they do not exist as absolutes, and that is why they need to be aknowedged by a nation for them to be accepted.

    We (United States) has aknowedged the existance of the country of Taiwan, so in my eyes they are a country. They are not a country to China of course though.

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    Re: Is the Republic of China (Taiwan) worth protecting?

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    Yeah, I go to bed fearing Finland and Denmark, too.
    Is a Tiger scared of a Coyote?


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    Re: Is the Republic of China (Taiwan) worth protecting?

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    I just like when people post, that their "facts" are actually related to the discussion.


    Countries are created completely by people anyway, so they do not exist as absolutes, and that is why they need to be aknowedged by a nation for them to be accepted.

    We (United States) has aknowedged the existance of the country of Taiwan, so in my eyes they are a country. They are not a country to China of course though.
    The U.S. does not view Taiwan as a soverign nation. We are completely observant of the One China policy and have been since the Nixon administration.

    Jue | The "One China" Policy: Terms of Art

    To understand how the “one China” principle is intertwined with the vital interests of the U.S., one needs to look back to Henry Kissinger’s secret mission to Beijing in July 1971, when Kissinger told Premier Zhou Enlai that the United States did not seek “a two-Chinas, one- China or one-Taiwan solution, nor an independent Taiwan.” At that time, Zhou already showed a concern for China’s sovereignty over Taiwan as well as a future Japanese role in the region. He wanted assurances that China’s claim of territorial integrity, including Taiwan, was respected and that Washington would not support any movement that was inconsistent with the concept of one China, even though the nascent independence movement on the island was relatively small and insignificant. According to a National Security Archive report issued on Dec. 11, 2003, we now know that President Richard Nixon assured Chinese leaders in February 1972 that he would indeed work against such an outcome. (These statements were closely held until a mandatory declassification review was completed by the Nixon presidential materials staff in 2003.)
    As you can see, we grant no such recognition to Taiwan.

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    Re: Is the Republic of China (Taiwan) worth protecting?

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    I just like when people post, that their "facts" are actually related to the discussion.
    Taiwan not being a country isn't related to this discussion? That's an interesting take.

    Thanks to tlmorg02 for setting you straight.

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    Re: Is the Republic of China (Taiwan) worth protecting?

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Every nations is a predator.
    I imagine we'll be fine defending our own borders from within said borders.

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    Re: Is the Republic of China (Taiwan) worth protecting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I imagine we'll be fine defending our own borders from within said borders.
    Your imagination is wrong. France had the same grand strategy relying on the Maginot line. OUr nuclear deterant is not all it is built up to be.


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    Re: Is the Republic of China (Taiwan) worth protecting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I imagine we'll be fine defending our own borders from within said borders.
    Well, long before we need to worry about someone invading us, that's for sure.
    Wow. Am I awesome or what?

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    Re: Is the Republic of China (Taiwan) worth protecting?

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Your imagination is wrong. France had the same grand strategy relying on the Maginot line. OUr nuclear deterant is not all it is built up to be.
    The example you gave isn't even remotely relevant.

    Pull out of NATO and the various treaties we've entered into and I bet we'll have the money and manpower to build up a military sufficient for our needs.

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