View Poll Results: Should this band T-shirt have been pulled?

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    Re: school band T-shirt is pulled

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Whether or not you agree with their beliefs, the shirt was offensive to some people. I disagree that it's a first ammendment issue (science is not religion, and is not opposed to religion - it's just science), but why put an image on a school shirt that parents find offensive?
    They probably didn't think it would be offensive. If I saw it on a T-shirt, I might think it was clever or I might think nothing at all...but "OMG people will be offended" would not immediately leap to mind. As cynical as I am, I guess I sometimes have too much faith in the intelligence of people.
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    Re: school band T-shirt is pulled

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    was it such a leap in reasoning for you two?

    only ones who would oppose the shirt are religious, so he tied into it to justify with that comment
    I don't follow this. Because some religious people object to secular things, does it make secular things religious?

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    Re: school band T-shirt is pulled

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    was it such a leap in reasoning for you two?

    only ones who would oppose the shirt are religious, so he tied into it to justify with that comment
    Just because religious people are the only ones who are offended by it doesn't mean that it's a religious issue.
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    Re: school band T-shirt is pulled

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Sure it is. Schools are the places that our youth are taught about the Theory of Evolution. A teacher not wanting Evolution associated with a school conveys the exact opposite of what is literally taught in a school. That's textbook irony right there, my friend.
    Irony would be if she were a science teacher. As is she's just dumb.
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    Re: school band T-shirt is pulled

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Just because religious people are the only ones who are offended by it doesn't mean that it's a religious issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I don't follow this. Because some religious people object to secular things, does it make secular things religious?
    it is quite simple, you must apparently not want to see why it was said

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    Re: school band T-shirt is pulled

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    They probably didn't think it would be offensive. If I saw it on a T-shirt, I might think it was clever or I might think nothing at all...but "OMG people will be offended" would not immediately leap to mind. As cynical as I am, I guess I sometimes have too much faith in the intelligence of people.
    I wasn't aware that anybody was saying they did it knowing they would offend people. It did, however, and I fully support a school district pulling a shirt of theirs that parents find offensive.

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    Re: school band T-shirt is pulled

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    Irony would be if she were a science teacher. As is she's just dumb.
    Dumb? Yes. But a teacher not wanting something associated with schools that is entirely associated with schools to begin with just reeks of irony. Her discipline is irrelevant; as a teacher, she knows better. Rather, she should know better (she's a teacher, after all). Hence, the nice thick slice of irony that she choked on in my hypothetical example.
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    Re: school band T-shirt is pulled

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    was it such a leap in reasoning for you two?

    only ones who would oppose the shirt are religious, so he tied into it to justify with that comment
    Yes, but it doesn't make sense and it further fuels the belief that evolution is a religious belief. I understand why he did it. It just is rather stupid when you understand the subject. It's like saying that people objected to chemistry on the basis of religion, therefore it's a 1st amendment issue. Pandering to stupidity and ignorance, while may get you elected, doesn't make you correct.
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    Re: school band T-shirt is pulled

    I won't address whether it was right fo them to be offended. But they were, so the course of wisdom was to recall them.

    Of course, I don't really approve of school bands or school sports to begin with.
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    Re: school band T-shirt is pulled

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    it is quite simple, you must apparently not want to see why it was said
    Or it might mean you are not explaining your point well.

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