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    Re: Is everyone a little bit racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Bull****. There are no "degrees" of racism. You either think your race is superior, or you don't. You either think another race is inferior, or you don't. So no, everyone is NOT racist "to some degree". Racism is a learned belief, therefore it is impossible for it to be inherent in everyone.
    Learn the definitions of racism riverrat. :

    racism - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
    * Main Entry: rac·ism
    * Pronunciation: \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\
    * Function: noun
    * Date: 1933

    1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
    2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
    Now here is the definition of prejudice :

    prejudice - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

    * Main Entry: 1prej·u·dice
    * Pronunciation: \ˈpre-jə-dəs\
    * Function: noun
    * Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin praejudicium previous judgment, damage, from prae- + judicium judgment — more at judicial
    * Date: 13th century

    1 : injury or damage resulting from some judgment or action of another in disregard of one's rights; especially : detriment to one's legal rights or claims
    2 a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics
    synonyms see predilection
    Last edited by Hatuey; 09-02-09 at 03:02 AM.
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    Re: Is everyone a little bit racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Learn the definitions of racism riverrat. :

    racism - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary


    Now here is the definition of prejudice :

    prejudice - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
    Yes... and?

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    Re: Is everyone a little bit racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Discriminating and stereotyping are completely different things.
    Then we're certainly defining them differently.

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    Re: Is everyone a little bit racist?

    If you define racism as believing your race is superior or another race or races are inferior, then I'd say most people are not racist at all. If you want to talk about prejudice and sterotyping, then yeah we're probably all guilty to some extent. But then again, when does sterotyping stop and just become playing the odds?

    Is is racial prejudice to be a little more nervous when driving through a black urban neighborhood? Or is it simply acknowledging the reality that most black neighborhoods in large cities have higher crime rates?

    I used to work in home improvement sales and when I had a sales call to a immigrant family from the Middle East, India, or Asia, I always upped my opening price 10 to 15% higher than normal. This wasn't due to some racist policy, but due to my experience that people from those cultures were far more likely to want to haggle and would take it to further lengths than Americans of any color. And just to so everyone knows, the opening price was never the final price and everyone got the same final price.

    Sales taught me that sterotyping isn't necessarily a bad thing. Our race, ethnicity, job, and age all play a role in who we are as people. My presentations to construction workers were different than my presentations to lawyers. I didn't use the same pitch on a 80 year old widow that I used on a newlywed couple in their early 20's. And yeah, I had a slightly different style for blacks, whites, Mexicans, and other ethnic groups. There were times I had to adjust based on the individual, but in general I recognized certain patterns based on age, race or ethnicity, and job. Sterotypes exist and persist because there are different tendancies in different groups. Trying to deny this is ridiculous.
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    Re: Is everyone a little bit racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Yes... and?
    Do you not understand that you're using a ridiculously narrow definition of what racism is? It's like trying to describe an egg by saying 'it's round'. Do I have to spell it out for you or something?
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    Re: Is everyone a little bit racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Do you not understand that you're using a ridiculously narrow definition of what racism is? It's like trying to describe an egg by saying 'it's round'. Do I have to spell it out for you or something?
    I don't see how the definition you posted differed from mine at all.

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    Re: Is everyone a little bit racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Then we're certainly defining them differently.
    If I say black men usually have bigger dicks than white men, how am I discriminating against an entire race? I'm not stopping anyone from doing anything. I'm not refusing service to anyone. I'm not implying that one race should be favored over another in any situation whatsoever. So, how am I discriminating?

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    Re: Is everyone a little bit racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    If I say black men usually have bigger dicks than white men, how am I discriminating against an entire race? I'm not stopping anyone from doing anything. I'm not refusing service to anyone. I'm not implying that one race should be favored over another in any situation whatsoever. So, how am I discriminating?
    In that sense, discrimination refers to an action whereas a stereotype would refer to a belief.

    Would you agree that discrimination is acting based on stereotype?

    For example, depending on your attitude toward big dicks, if you know you're going to have sex with 10 men, and you like big dicks, you are going to discriminate against the white guys. If you don't like big dicks, you are going to discriminate against the black guys.

    In that sense I still would assume that *everyone* has stereotypes and that *everyone* discriminates.

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    Re: Is everyone a little bit racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I don't see how the definition you posted differed from mine at all.
    Except of course you didn't read what I said or posted. I just stated that everyone is racist to some degree. EVERYONE holds some sort of racial prejudice whether they like it or not. Here is what you said in that rant of a post :

    Bull****. There are no "degrees" of racism. You either think your race is superior, or you don't. You either think another race is inferior, or you don't. So no, everyone is NOT racist "to some degree". Racism is a learned belief, therefore it is impossible for it to be inherent in everyone.
    The definition of 'racism' doesn't rely solely on thinking your race is superior to others. It also relies on having prejudiced views on race. Thinking your race is superior because of XYZ is a prejudiced view on race. Thinking that black people all eat watermelon and chicken is a prejudiced view on race regardless of whether you think they are superior to them. Am I getting through to you yet? I know you like to make up your own definition for words and concepts(ie. Squaw) but the world is a little more complex then that. Racism being 'a learned belief' is irrelevant. Everyone holds some sort of racial prejudice. Even 4 year old black kids who don't know the definition of 'race' have prejudiced views on race. Find me a single person on this planet who doesn't and you'll have found yourself the biggest bull****ter in the world.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 09-02-09 at 05:45 AM.
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    Re: Is everyone a little bit racist?

    My dad was a racist. He believed in the Klan Arayan brotherhoods and what not. I was affected by it when I was a kid but as I grew up and began learning for myself I out grew it. My wife is Filipina. If my dad were alive today we would not be aloud in his house.

    Racism is a sick disgusting thing but I do believe that we are all affected by it to some degree. Call it what you want sterotyping etc all those things are the seed of racism. Get carried away with your sterotypes, race profiling or what ever and it is just a short trip to full blown rascim.

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