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    Re: Healthcare mandatory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Nearly all health insurance mandates are coupled with subsidies and/or vouchers for lower income people. And rather than "making" health insurance companies lower their prices, I support a revenue-neutral public option to compete with them on a level playing field. Then they would naturally reduce their prices without being forced to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    You really do not think we should go after big pharma? They are a bunch of crooks and doctors get kick backs for pushing their drugs.
    I'm hesitant to disincentivize the research and development of new life-saving drugs by changing patent laws and/or trying to set prices. But ya, if a doctor is being paid by them, that's a conflict of interest that could very well be an ethical violation.
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    It is a fact they get kick backs for pushing certain drugs.
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    Re: Healthcare mandatory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    None of those things are covered by food stamps. If you're talking about bartering them on the secondary market, you are correct that it happens, but I don't want to make it even easier to do this by giving people cash instead of food.
    debit cards seem like it may be a good idea, reloaded monthly or whatever
    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Nearly all health insurance mandates are coupled with subsidies and/or vouchers for lower income people. And rather than "making" health insurance companies lower their prices, I support a revenue-neutral public option to compete with them on a level playing field. Then they would naturally reduce their prices without being forced to do so.
    by creating an entity to 'compete with the' on a non-profit basis is forcing them to do so

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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Healthcare mandatory?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    debit cards seem like it may be a good idea, reloaded monthly or whatever
    I think that's essentially how the Food Stamp program works now. I don't think they actually use stamps anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH
    by creating an entity to 'compete with the' on a non-profit basis is forcing them to do so
    Then that's just the way it is. Not everything has to be done for a profit (look at the huge number of top-notch, non-profit public and private universities). As long as the public option charges premiums that are high enough to recover its expenses, the private companies' profit margins are fair game. On the other hand, if it's truly as inefficient and unreliable as its opponents claim it will be, then the private companies should hardly be affected by it at all.

    While I don't believe the public option will put private insurers out of business like many people hope/fear, I do think that it will encourage a transition from viewing health insurance as a for-profit big business, to a non-profit public service. And I don't see what's so tragic about that.
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    it is evil and comunist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Should Healthcare insurance be mandatory for everyone?
    Only if you do not support people having the right to choose.

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    Re: Healthcare mandatory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Yes, having health insurance should be mandatory. There is no practical/ethical way to deny someone emergency health care just because they don't have insurance
    Sure there is:
    -Those that provide the goods and services have a right to be compensated for same;
    -You do not have a right to expect others to pay for goods and services you receive
    -You are responsible for yourself, and you are responsible for the choices you make, regardless of the circumstances of those choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Except the taxpayers WILL have an obligation to pay for your medical care if you don't have insurance.
    This is not at all necessarily so.
    The taxpayers only have this 'obligation' because the law says so.
    You can very easily eliminate this 'obligation' by changing the law.

    If it turns out he doesn't have insurance, who should be responsible for his medical costs?
    He, himself.

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    Re: Healthcare mandatory?

    If healthcare is not mandatory, then those who refuse to get it, and cannot pay for services, should be denied, or at the least, the government, under no circumstances should subsidize in any way. No exceptions. If this is not an option, then it should be mandatory. If we go with a personal responsibility model, if someone chooses not to protect their health in this way, it is not the government's responsibility to pay. If a hospital, individual, or charity wants to cover it, fine, that is their choice. If they do not, no services.
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