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    For me mandating that everyone have HC insurance is nothing short of taxing or making a person pay to live. If you don't have insurance you get a fine via the courts. What happens if you don't pay that fine? You go to jail. That is putting someone in jail for just living.
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    No. If I don't want it why the hell should I be forced to? A little thing called freedom of choice.
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    Re: Healthcare mandatory?

    Has anyone mentioned yet thet US medical is the most expensive in the world? Perhaps we should work on poltical bills that help reduce the costs of care rather than everybody foot the bill for an over priced system

    Yes I know about the high cost of malpractice insurance etc but I heard a blurb on the news the other day that part of Obama's getting the drug companies on board with his health care was that he had promised them that he would protect their profits by not permitting cheaper sources of drugs ie Canada to have a market in the US. I have also heard the ambulance chaser lawyers are being pandered to.

    Thus we pay while the the people actually responsible for the high cost of health care have their profits protected.

    Again, To me the whole Obama care is a bad idea. Health care is not as important to him as is campaign contributions if he decides to run for re election. It would not matter who was the president. No group that is wealthy and getting wealtheir is going to let anybody pee in the rice bowl.

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    Re: Healthcare mandatory?

    Abosilutly not. A person such as myself that will not seek medical treatment should not be forced to pay for insurance. All of my family knows not to send me in for treatment regardless of the situation. Now if they follow that when the time comes is beyond my control. If they decide to go against my will then I also expect them to foot the bill.

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    Re: Healthcare mandatory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    A person such as myself that will not seek medical treatment should not be forced to pay for insurance.
    Okay...how do you know you will not seek medical treatment in the future?

    All of my family knows not to send me in for treatment regardless of the situation.
    So you're telling me, your family would let you die rather than send you to a hospital?

    Now if they follow that when the time comes is beyond my control. If they decide to go against my will then I also expect them to foot the bill.
    So you expect your family to foot the bill for life saving treatment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    For me mandating that everyone have HC insurance is nothing short of taxing or making a person pay to live. If you don't have insurance you get a fine via the courts. What happens if you don't pay that fine? You go to jail. That is putting someone in jail for just living.
    There does not necessarily have to be jail time for that. What's your alternative? Right now taxpayers pick the bill up as well as hospitals, many of which operate in the red. That to me is unacceptable. I suspect it is to most people as well.

    At least with mandatory HC, we move some of the burden off of the taxpayers and on to those who use medical services. Why should the taxpayer and hospital be forced to pick up all of the bill? Why shouldn't the uninsured at least pay for part of it?

    And I'd be all for removing mandatory HC is there was insurance that was cheap enough so that even the poorest of the poor could get some coverage.

    I don't see how it is fair to expect the taxpayer and hospitals to pick up the bill and not expect the uninsured to pay a dime. And that's what your argument does.
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    Re: Healthcare mandatory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    Abosilutly not. A person such as myself that will not seek medical treatment should not be forced to pay for insurance. All of my family knows not to send me in for treatment regardless of the situation. Now if they follow that when the time comes is beyond my control. If they decide to go against my will then I also expect them to foot the bill.
    Is your unusual attitude toward health care related to religion? If so, any health insurance mandate would almost certainly have religious exemptions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    There does not necessarily have to be jail time for that. What's your alternative? Right now taxpayers pick the bill up as well as hospitals, many of which operate in the red. That to me is unacceptable. I suspect it is to most people as well.

    At least with mandatory HC, we move some of the burden off of the taxpayers and on to those who use medical services. Why should the taxpayer and hospital be forced to pick up all of the bill? Why shouldn't the uninsured at least pay for part of it?

    And I'd be all for removing mandatory HC is there was insurance that was cheap enough so that even the poorest of the poor could get some coverage.

    I don't see how it is fair to expect the taxpayer and hospitals to pick up the bill and not expect the uninsured to pay a dime. And that's what your argument does.
    How is it fair to charge a person for simply living? And which one is more important? The right to live without being charged (and possibly thrown in jail) for simply living or peoples money?
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    Re: Healthcare mandatory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    How is it fair to charge a person for simply living?
    Are you saying you support
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    -Government-run housing
    -Government-run everything else necessary for survival
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    Re: Healthcare mandatory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    How is it fair to charge a person for simply living? And which one is more important? The right to live without being charged (and possibly thrown in jail) for simply living or peoples money?
    Let me clarify. Both potential outcomes are bad. But I don't see why on Earth we should expect the taxpayers and hospitals to cover the entire bill.

    Doesn't it seem at least more responsible for those who are getting healthcare to pay at least SOMETHING?

    If we are going to have to pay for it, let's at least make the person getting care pay for part of it. It's only fair that way.

    There is a potential solution here though. After getting care, your wages are garnished or some of your property seized to cover the costs if you do not pay up. But what do we do for truly destitute people? Let them just die?

    You are arguing from an idealistic view, rather than what is actually going to happen and what happens now.
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