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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    It is bad for us because manufacturing creates long term jobs and security.
    You do know that American exports of manufactured goods is actually on the rise no?

    http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/...ical/gands.pdf

    The dollar value of US goods exported has nearly doubled since 2000.

    People have this strange view that manufacturing is dead in America. The $1.2 trillion in goods we exported last year suggests otherwise.

    What you mistake is the problem of automation rather than trade. Instead of hiring 500 people to make a product, they automate and hire 5 people. More goods with higher values are being made, just by fewer people.

    Automation is far more of a threat to the number of manufacturing jobs rather than anything else.

    Service jobs are outsourced to india or insourced from Mexico.
    And why shouldn't they?

    Service jobs depend on cheap products from other nations, and thus will be severly hurt by any price fluctutions. I am not saying we should be China, but we should make sure our economy is multiversed (No Eggs in one basket). The US policy should be one that protects our workers, and our business's. free global economy does not help us at all, it helps large international corporations and 3rd world countries.
    Come again? The managed global economy (free trade does not exist) has highly supported US exports. Let's just look at NAFTA. NAFTA was enacted in 1992-1993. In 2008, Trade of exports has tripled.

    Tell me, does the quality of your life go up when your purchasing power goes up? After all, imports of high quality cheap products means you can buy more with the same dollar. How is that bad for the country?

    Surely not, but it is an important factor so is manufacturing.
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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    I'm not particularly a fan of it, myself. It's seems to be leading to cultural homogeny in the West, with everything that made our own native cultures unique being watered down.
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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    I'm not particularly a fan of it, myself. It's seems to be leading to cultural homogeny in the West, with everything that made our own native cultures unique being watered down.
    That actually is a pretty depressing prospect.
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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanitas View Post
    That actually is a pretty depressing prospect.
    Yep. And that's not to say I think there's some cast-iron never changing concept of every nation's specific culture, because time and new ideas and immigration naturally change a nation as it is. But those are natural changes, really. They tend to add something new to each nations culture, while globalisation seems to just water everything down, making it bland and rather similiar wherever you go.
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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    Cultures intermingle all of the time. They have been since before the invention of the sail. Globalization is just a continuation of that process. Even then, can one say that the cultures of MA and TX are completely the same?
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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Cultures intermingle all of the time. They have been since before the invention of the sail. Globalization is just a continuation of that process. Even then, can one say that the cultures of MA and TX are completely the same?
    It's a continuation that's quite different in nature, though, and of much greater scope. Whether or not that's a good thing really depends on whether or not you feel a greater aspect of homogeny between different nations and cultures is necessarily a good thing.
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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    It's a continuation that's quite different in nature, though, and of much greater scope. Whether or not that's a good thing really depends on whether or not you feel a greater aspect of homogeny between different nations and cultures is necessarily a good thing.
    It's a lurch forward, but it's been happening, usually unabated, for millenia. If any good comes out of it, it might mean fewer wars over petty things like ethnicity and the like

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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    It's a lurch forward, but it's been happening, usually unabated, for millenia. If any good comes out of it, it might mean fewer wars over petty things like ethnicity and the like
    Plus, even still I think people around the world will still view things through the same eyes. The people of Afghanistan still wont be simply Afghanis, they will be Pashtuns, Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazara, etc.
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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    Globalization is good!!! It advances the efficiency of production by utilizing the peak of production technology, driving down the wages of the working people of the world and finding the workers who live in conditions closest to slavery. This in and of itself is bad of course. The workers of the world are being driven into worse and worse poverty, working harder for less and less money while the elite capitalists are raking in more obscene profits.

    At the same time, the construction of infrastructure of international capital fortifies the collectivization of the workers. The establishment of third world without borders will cause and has already to a very limited extent caused the re-emergence of some class consciousness and the formation of a world view in opposition to the neo-liberal doctrine of crushing unions, lowering wages and treating workers as sub-human appendages of the machinery.

    The effects of globalization in human terms are quite terrible. Its emergence is making this the generation of the sweatshop, of a speedily growing class divide, of the concentration of all real wealth in the hands of a few. But the historical effects of globalization are promising. If the whole world exists under the conditions of advanced capitalism, revolution will come more easily and win more completely. Global capital requires the creation of global labor. And global labor is the force that can win the world.
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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by faminedynasty View Post
    If the whole world exists under the conditions of advanced capitalism, revolution will come more easily and win more completely.
    unless the capitalism is Hitler style, which is where we're headed.

    real capitalism implies little to no government. we have an ever increasing government headed towards a world government. it would theoretically have little power but in practice through its connections to central banks and corporations would have unprecedented power that people like Hitler would not dare dream of.
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