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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I understand, nearly everything I believe in is left to the hypothetical world.

    I was referring to goods and services not easily reproducible in ones local as being fine for trade.

    I heavily dislike large corporations as there is a huge disconnect between the managers and the laborers.
    I'm working the best way I can with what I have though.
    You join us distributists. I mean we're fighting a loosing battle most likely but we do our best.


    Not all work will be outsourced that way but a lot of it will particularly assembly lines. I'm a witness to this at my current employer.
    Seeing a job that required 3 being reduced to 1.

    Factory labor is not helpful, at least in my opinion, in making a happy person.
    I largely agree if we are talking about modern, taylorist style factories and assembly lines.
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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    What kind of jobs were lost, and what kind were gained? If 37000 skilled jobs were lost and 200000 low skill jobs gained that is a overall loss in long term prosperity

    Again I dont mind fair trade, where both sides benefit. I understand the idea that certain things should be imported, that it doesnt make sense to make here when its better and cheaper somewhere else. Yet what is happening thanks to overregulation inside country and lack of regulation on imports creates unfair market conditions for our companies. Thus what could and should be made here, isnt made here. We are selling ourselves out to the interests of the few.
    Since the jobs were mainly exported to Mexico, I believe they were largely low skilled jobs that. Also, generally when new jobs are created in a growing economy, they are in higher skilled sectors (a job you may need a college degree for).
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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    You join us distributists. I mean we're fighting a loosing battle most likely but we do our best.
    The main reason the battle is being lost is because one has to actively pursue and accept that particular belief.
    It sucks but most of what you or I believe isn't always simple and it rarely taught.

    I think we usually are in the same boat on things, your usually a lot more specific than I am though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    I largely agree if we are talking about modern, taylorist style factories and assembly lines.
    What do you mean by taylorist?
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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    The main reason the battle is being lost is because one has to actively pursue and accept that particular belief.
    It sucks but most of what you or I believe isn't always simple and it rarely taught.

    I think we usually are in the same boat on things, your usually a lot more specific than I am though.
    We all do our bit I suppose. I'm quite lazy though. I see the massive posts of say CC or Agna and I think I could never be bothered to write such.

    What do you mean by taylorist?
    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_management]Scientific management - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    In political and sociological terms, Taylorism can be seen as the division of labour pushed to its logical extreme, with a consequent de-skilling of the worker and dehumanisation of the workplace, see 3D.
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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    Look at how the votes are split...
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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    We all do our bit I suppose. I'm quite lazy though. I see the massive posts of say CC or Agna and I think I could never be bothered to write such.
    Simplifying an answer can be a powerful tool of spreading information.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Scientific management - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In political and sociological terms, Taylorism can be seen as the division of labour pushed to its logical extreme, with a consequent de-skilling of the worker and dehumanisation of the workplace, see 3D.
    I have seen this a lot and even when they include worker incentives to increase production, it still doesn't work like they want it to.

    I have seen employees specifically damage machinery to get time off and a lot of times working for over time pay isn't enough incentive compared with time off.
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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanitas View Post
    Look at how the votes are split...
    I was expecting far more support for it. I'm quite surprised, in a good way.
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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    I voted no for purely selfish reasons.

    I don't want the decrease in the standard of living I see happening as we globalize.

    Just being honest.
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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    What do tou mean they are starting from a lower base?
    Our manufacturing companies cannot compete because of overregulation, and lack of regulation on imports. I have no problem with fair trade, where our economy and jobs arent soldout for the interests of the few. We are not merging with China and India, we are basically doing wealth redistribution from the low and middle class to those nations and the ultra wealthy oligarchs.

    Again, you're looking at this like a socialist. Just because the Indians and Chinese are gaining, that doesn't mean that we're losing. Americans are moving toward jobs that suit our economy better. This doesn't mean McJobs. Many firms are able to hire more Americans because they outsource.

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    What kind of jobs were lost, and what kind were gained? If 37000 skilled jobs were lost and 200000 low skill jobs gained that is a overall loss in long term prosperity
    I've adressed this point enough

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Again I dont mind fair trade, where both sides benefit. I understand the idea that certain things should be imported, that it doesnt make sense to make here when its better and cheaper somewhere else. Yet what is happening thanks to overregulation inside country and lack of regulation on imports creates unfair market conditions for our companies. Thus what could and should be made here, isnt made here. We are selling ourselves out to the interests of the few.
    I certainly agree that our manufacturing sector is way too tied up with regulations. The free market should determine the fate of American industry Free trade has helped us in almost every case that it's been implemented, and tarrifs have hurt us economically. Look at the results of NAFTA, the liberaliztion of British trade in the 1840s, Jefferson's tarrifs on Britain and France during the Napoleonic Wars, and the Smoot-Hawely Tarrif that Hoover passed in 1930s.

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    Re: Is globalization a good thing?

    Again, you're looking at this like a socialist. Just because the Indians and Chinese are gaining, that doesn't mean that we're losing. Americans are moving toward jobs that suit our economy better. This doesn't mean McJobs. Many firms are able to hire more Americans because they outsource.
    Again dont call me a damn socialist, I am a nationalist. We are losing jobs, every single day, you ignore that at your and our risk. We are losing highly skilled jobs, and gaining low skill jobs filled by illegals and insourced work forces.


    I've adressed this point enough
    Not to my satisfaction, not gona force you but it would be nice if you could elaborate with more detail.

    I certainly agree that our manufacturing sector is way too tied up with regulations. The free market should determine the fate of American industry Free trade has helped us in almost every case that it's been implemented, and tarrifs have hurt us economically. Look at the results of NAFTA, the liberaliztion of British trade in the 1840s, Jefferson's tarrifs on Britain and France during the Napoleonic Wars, and the Smoot-Hawely Tarrif that Hoover passed in 1930s
    Same measures do not always have the same results. To have a long term stabile economy you have to realise what is working and what isnt. Right now the wholesale of the united states is going on, with one hand opening our borders and the other clamping down on our manufacturing and light industry especially. We are allowing the insourcing of huge numbers of IT people, who are driving down wages and stealing American jobs( I am in this field and have seen the devastation this is causing).


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