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    Why Different Countries Reach A Common Point

    It appears to me that there's been a trend in recent history. As a nation becomes developed and industrial, its economic/governmental structure seems to move towards a common point. America, Europe, the Commonwealth, Russia, all these places have representative democractic political structures. Their economy, whether they started out with central planning or free market, are regulated capitalism with social safety net programs. Though parties in these places might argue over the exact parameters, no one except a few on the frings disagree with this basic structure. Considering the vast number of ways to structure a nation, this is pretty spectacular. Even China seems to be moving in this direction.

    This interests me greatly, that all modernized nations seem to move into this range, as I see it. Anyone have any theories why?
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    Re: Why Different Countries Reach A Common Point

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    It appears to me that there's been a trend in recent history. As a nation becomes developed and industrial, its economic/governmental structure seems to move towards a common point. America, Europe, the Commonwealth, Russia, all these places have representative democractic political structures. Their economy, whether they started out with central planning or free market, are regulated capitalism with social safety net programs. Though parties in these places might argue over the exact parameters, no one except a few on the frings disagree with this basic structure. Considering the vast number of ways to structure a nation, this is pretty spectacular. Even China seems to be moving in this direction.

    This interests me greatly, that all modernized nations seem to move into this range, as I see it. Anyone have any theories why?
    Russia is nowhere close to having representative democratic political structures or a social safety net.

    To answer your question, I think it is very difficult for a command economy to ever develop very far economically in the first place. And as people become wealthier, they also become better educated and better connected, and therefore more likely to be concerned about democracy and social safety nets and whatnot.

    In many parts of the world, people expect nothing from their government...and the government provides it. As you move up the economic ladder, people start to expect more from their governments.
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    Re: Why Different Countries Reach A Common Point

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    It appears to me that there's been a trend in recent history. As a nation becomes developed and industrial, its economic/governmental structure seems to move towards a common point. America, Europe, the Commonwealth, Russia, all these places have representative democractic political structures. Their economy, whether they started out with central planning or free market, are regulated capitalism with social safety net programs. Though parties in these places might argue over the exact parameters, no one except a few on the frings disagree with this basic structure. Considering the vast number of ways to structure a nation, this is pretty spectacular. Even China seems to be moving in this direction.

    This interests me greatly, that all modernized nations seem to move into this range, as I see it. Anyone have any theories why?
    I agree, at least if you are only comparing those two factors.

    Because after a country has citizens with democratic ideals, it is very difficult for the country to become authoritative.

    Also, even though there may be trends for smaller government in developed nations, once people get a taste of a bare mininum safety net, I can't see how people would ever decide to dissemble it.


    But when you say common point, you are leaving out many other factors that determine what a country will act like. So that title kind of threw me off a little. :P

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    Re: Why Different Countries Reach A Common Point

    why wouldn't they progress towards a common point ?

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    Re: Why Different Countries Reach A Common Point

    No. Israel wants to blow up Iran and Iran wants to blow up Israel. I honestly see no common point there other than they both want bombs.

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    Re: Why Different Countries Reach A Common Point

    America, Europe, the Commonwealth, Russia, all these places have representative democractic political structures.
    Russia does not have a representative Democracy sorry buddy.


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    Re: Why Different Countries Reach A Common Point

    Russia is not a democracy to its full meaning.
    But you are correct, advanced nations do reach sort of a 'common point'.
    That's because they understand that Democracy is the best option.
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    Re: Why Different Countries Reach A Common Point

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    No. Israel wants to blow up Iran and Iran wants to blow up Israel. I honestly see no common point there other than they both want bombs.
    Israel wants to take out Iran's nuclear cores and Iran wants to take out Israel.
    No common point indeed.
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    Re: Why Different Countries Reach A Common Point

    Common point ?
    Define "common point".
    No matter, IMO, nations do. Basically most civilized men and their nations aspire for the same things in life and will do those things that work to achieve this......sorry...too many things..
    Israel and Iran are mentioned, but only one is what I would call "civilized", the other being more like an undisciplined two year old..
    Given time, this will change, I hope.

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    Re: Why Different Countries Reach A Common Point

    the makeout hobo, this is real simple.

    As people get richer, they want more control over their lives and have more resources to do just that. Thus, the push for democracy.

    Lakryte's point is worthless because it casts the view of some in their respective government as the view of the people.
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