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Why Different Countries Reach A Common Point

Do Nations Progress Toward A Common Point

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 41.7%
  • No

    Votes: 7 58.3%

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the makeout hobo

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It appears to me that there's been a trend in recent history. As a nation becomes developed and industrial, its economic/governmental structure seems to move towards a common point. America, Europe, the Commonwealth, Russia, all these places have representative democractic political structures. Their economy, whether they started out with central planning or free market, are regulated capitalism with social safety net programs. Though parties in these places might argue over the exact parameters, no one except a few on the frings disagree with this basic structure. Considering the vast number of ways to structure a nation, this is pretty spectacular. Even China seems to be moving in this direction.

This interests me greatly, that all modernized nations seem to move into this range, as I see it. Anyone have any theories why?
 
It appears to me that there's been a trend in recent history. As a nation becomes developed and industrial, its economic/governmental structure seems to move towards a common point. America, Europe, the Commonwealth, Russia, all these places have representative democractic political structures. Their economy, whether they started out with central planning or free market, are regulated capitalism with social safety net programs. Though parties in these places might argue over the exact parameters, no one except a few on the frings disagree with this basic structure. Considering the vast number of ways to structure a nation, this is pretty spectacular. Even China seems to be moving in this direction.

This interests me greatly, that all modernized nations seem to move into this range, as I see it. Anyone have any theories why?

Russia is nowhere close to having representative democratic political structures or a social safety net.

To answer your question, I think it is very difficult for a command economy to ever develop very far economically in the first place. And as people become wealthier, they also become better educated and better connected, and therefore more likely to be concerned about democracy and social safety nets and whatnot.

In many parts of the world, people expect nothing from their government...and the government provides it. As you move up the economic ladder, people start to expect more from their governments.
 
It appears to me that there's been a trend in recent history. As a nation becomes developed and industrial, its economic/governmental structure seems to move towards a common point. America, Europe, the Commonwealth, Russia, all these places have representative democractic political structures. Their economy, whether they started out with central planning or free market, are regulated capitalism with social safety net programs. Though parties in these places might argue over the exact parameters, no one except a few on the frings disagree with this basic structure. Considering the vast number of ways to structure a nation, this is pretty spectacular. Even China seems to be moving in this direction.

This interests me greatly, that all modernized nations seem to move into this range, as I see it. Anyone have any theories why?

I agree, at least if you are only comparing those two factors.

Because after a country has citizens with democratic ideals, it is very difficult for the country to become authoritative.

Also, even though there may be trends for smaller government in developed nations, once people get a taste of a bare mininum safety net, I can't see how people would ever decide to dissemble it.


But when you say common point, you are leaving out many other factors that determine what a country will act like. So that title kind of threw me off a little. :p
 
No. Israel wants to blow up Iran and Iran wants to blow up Israel. I honestly see no common point there other than they both want bombs.
 
Russia is not a democracy to its full meaning.
But you are correct, advanced nations do reach sort of a 'common point'.
That's because they understand that Democracy is the best option. ;)
 
No. Israel wants to blow up Iran and Iran wants to blow up Israel. I honestly see no common point there other than they both want bombs.
Israel wants to take out Iran's nuclear cores and Iran wants to take out Israel.
No common point indeed.
 
Common point ?
Define "common point".
No matter, IMO, nations do. Basically most civilized men and their nations aspire for the same things in life and will do those things that work to achieve this......sorry...too many things..
Israel and Iran are mentioned, but only one is what I would call "civilized", the other being more like an undisciplined two year old..
Given time, this will change, I hope.
 
the makeout hobo, this is real simple.

As people get richer, they want more control over their lives and have more resources to do just that. Thus, the push for democracy.

Lakryte's point is worthless because it casts the view of some in their respective government as the view of the people.
 
Russia does not have a representative Democracy sorry buddy.

They do in theory, and for a while it functioned more or less like one. They're not all the way there but they seem to be overall moving in that direction. Compare Russia now to Russia a few decades ago. Russia elects a legislature, even if there's voting flaws its closer than they were.

No. Israel wants to blow up Iran and Iran wants to blow up Israel. I honestly see no common point there other than they both want bombs.

Did I mention either country? What does that have to do with anything? And you're discussing foreign policy, not domestic, which is what this thread is about.
 
Some countries, like USA reach towards economic prosperity, and making the general populace more well off. Other countries, like Pakistan, reach towards nuclear weapons when the people don't even have proper vaccines for relatively preventable diseases.
 
Russia is nowhere close to having representative democratic political structures or a social safety net.

To answer your question, I think it is very difficult for a command economy to ever develop very far economically in the first place. And as people become wealthier, they also become better educated and better connected, and therefore more likely to be concerned about democracy and social safety nets and whatnot.

In many parts of the world, people expect nothing from their government...and the government provides it. As you move up the economic ladder, people start to expect more from their governments.

Russia there want t o get in EU becuase part of Russia is i n european.thiis will b e big mistake for EU to let this.
 
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