View Poll Results: Should people be given a second chance?

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  • Involuntary Manslaughter.

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  • Rape.

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  • Burglary.

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  • General theft.

    15 75.00%
  • Kidnapping.

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  • Keep laws as they are now.

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  • They should never be forgiven at all.

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    Re: Should people be given a second chance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The places that bother to run a criminal background need to know if you have in fact committed crimes.

    Crime has lasting consequences, so obey the law.
    What about if you at some point do something stupid, and never anything afterwards? Should that one stupid act be a unrepairable blot on the rest of your life?
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    Re: Should people be given a second chance?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    What about if you at some point do something stupid, and afterwards do nothing again? Should that one stupid act be a unrepairable blot on the rest of your life?
    Yup.

    Look at the list....burglary...grand theft...yeah those blots should never go away.
    Last edited by Jerry; 08-22-09 at 07:16 PM.

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    Re: Should people be given a second chance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yup.

    Look at the list....burglary...grand theft...yeah those blots should never go away.
    So, you are saying an obviously pre-planned violation of the laws should not be removed.
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    Re: Should people be given a second chance?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    So, you are saying an obviously pre-planned violation of the laws should not be removed.
    Look at the list again...murder...kidnapping...rape..."oops, my bad" doesn't cut it. Those crimes should follow you for the rest of your days.

    Now if you weren't paying attention in a parking lot and you accidentally struck a child, killing them, well that's not pre-planned so that's a different story altogether.

    In that case your record should be expunged as soon as the child runs back from the graveyard and clicks the "resurrect" button.
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    Re: Should people be given a second chance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Look at the list again...murder...kidnapping...rape..."oops, my bad" doesn't cut it. Those crimes should follow you for the rest of your days.

    Now if you weren't paying attention in a parking lot and you accidentally struck a child, killing them, well that's pre-planned so that's a different story altogether.

    In that case your record should be expunged as soon as the child resurrects.
    I suppose I am trying to say that if, once in your life, you are a stupid moron and something illegal is done by you because of your stupidity, should you be marked for life as a criminal?

    I was not limiting it to the crimes listed on the poll.
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    Re: Should people be given a second chance?

    Giving some one a second chance does not mean that you should ignore what they did previously. If you are a convicted child molester who has served his time, you should have the chance at building a new life, but that does not mean society should let you live next door to a school. A second chance should mean a chance at a job and a place to live, and a chance to prove yourself again, it does not neccessarily mean that there cannot be certain restrictions on your actions.

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    Re: Should people be given a second chance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    One of the issues I have with the way we do things is best summed up thus:

    I was on duty in court. A bail hearing was in progress. The perp in question had been arrested for some felony (burglary, I think) about six months prior, and had gotten out on bail.

    He had then been arrested for assault, and gotten out on bail.
    ...then arrested for carjacking, and got out on bail...
    ...then for assault with a deadly weapon, and got out on bail...
    ...then for petty larceny, and got out on bail...
    ...then for attempted murder, and got out on bail...
    ...then most recently for something else, I forget what...
    Someone should take him outside and give him a double tap to the head.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Should people be given a second chance?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I suppose I am trying to say that if, once in your life, you are a stupid moron and something illegal is done by you because of your stupidity, should you be marked for life as a criminal?

    I was not limiting it to the crimes listed on the poll.
    I cold care less about petty offenses, but generally, yes, if you're a lawbreaker employers need to know. If you did something stupid a long time ago but your resume is otherwise outstanding, no doubt you'll have a chance to explain yourself in an interview.

    Having a construction background, I know a felony or 2 isn't going to cost you even if it's a violent offense. Just about the only charge you would need to worry about harming you is anything involving money.

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    Re: Should people be given a second chance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    There's no sense in spending so much money on prisons and corrective programs
    Bingo ! there isn't.

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    Re: Should people be given a second chance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Absolutely. As much as I push for "forgiveness" and restoration of rights for ex-convicts, I am in 100% support of "three strikes" laws. My only complaint is that the third strike is mandatory life-without-parole, when I am completely morally opposed to the practice of life-without-parole. The penalty for the third strike should be death.
    so like the third time you get caught smoking weed - you get the chair ?

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