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do being that are not sentient deserve moral treatment ?

should you feel sorry for somebody who doesn't exist ?

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NEUROSPORT said:
why ? what's in it for them ?

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Preventing their eventual elimination due to "survival of the fittest". Which is so far out of their realm of awareness that they probably don't think about it.
 
NEUROSPORT said:
this guy in another thread said that instead of developing alternative energy technologies we should lower speed limits to reduce our energy use.

for a BRIEF MOMENT i contemplated how to counter that then i thought - wait a minute ? am i seriously going to reply to that ?

if a person is so brilliant that he cannot understand that i DONT GIVE A F*CK what he thinks about the speed i should be driving at - is there anything i could relly communicate to him ?

so i just closed the window. but these people are everywhere. it bothers me that i am classified into the same species with them. except for the phenotype we have nothing in common. how do we just grant everybody who can walk upright the "sapiens" privilege ?
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Boy, you need to learn how to write before you come in here. Your grammar sucks, and you can't spell. So don't come in here questioning anyone's intelligence. Run along, son.
 
American said:
Boy, you need to learn how to write before you come in here. Your grammar sucks, and you can't spell. So don't come in here questioning anyone's intelligence. Run along, son.
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Hate to say this, but IMO, grammar and spelling quality do not equate to intelligence.

Having those skills will make you appear more intelligent, but you can be very intelligent and yet have poor communication skills.

Personally, I use Microsoft Word to check my posts.

I find errors, but they are slowly lessening as I learn from word… :mrgreen:
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
I try to practice learn and then speak although it doesn't always work out that way and I make an ass of myself.
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I was commending you and saying you aren't alone. A lot of our best posters here "lurked" for a while before actually posting. :2wave:
 
The Mark said:
Preventing their eventual elimination due to "survival of the fittest". Which is so far out of their realm of awareness that they probably don't think about it.
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retards don't think 9 months ahead let alone 1,000 years ahead.
 
American said:
Boy, you need to learn how to write before you come in here. Your grammar sucks, and you can't spell. So don't come in here questioning anyone's intelligence. Run along, son.
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if i don't tell you what i think of you that won't change my opinion ...
 
NEUROSPORT said:
retards don't think 9 months ahead let alone 1,000 years ahead.
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I think very few of the persons you appear to be refering to are actually "retards".

They just do not allocate the time to think about things outside their daily lives, for the most part. Thus the impression of retardedness is sometimes given.
 
The Mark said:
Hate to say this, but IMO, grammar and spelling quality do not equate to intelligence.

Having those skills will make you appear more intelligent, but you can be very intelligent and yet have poor communication skills.

Personally, I use Microsoft Word to check my posts.

I find errors, but they are slowly lessening as I learn from word… :mrgreen:
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ok basically i thought you people were mature and didn't have any spell checkers running but now i see we have a bunch of babies on here who will throw a fit if they see one wrong letter.

basically what you do is just install Google Chrome browser - it has a spell checker built in.
 
The Mark said:
I think very few of the persons you appear to be refering to are actually "retards".

They just do not allocate the time to think about things outside their daily lives, for the most part. Thus the impression of retardedness is sometimes given.
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well if they are so busy advancing their daily lives they better all be millionaires.

but they're not. so they're still retards.
 
NEUROSPORT said:
well if they are so busy advancing their daily lives they better all be millionaires.

but they're not. so they're still retards.
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wow..this has got to be the most ignorant statement yet. Do you have ANY idea what so ever how real life actually works?
 
NEUROSPORT said:
4 real !

like that Tarantino guy - made 2 spelling mistakes in his movie title after writing the script for 10 years

surely you are more intelligent than him

after all - spelling is the highest form of intelligence is it not ? isn't that why spelling bee is for 5 year old kids ?

thank you panda for sharing your profound ideas with us. i have only stopped using the shift key in 1996 and had maybe a thousand people point it out to me. keep up the good work.

you are a perfect example of the problem i am talking about. when a person is beyond a certain level you cannot even communicate to him/her what he/she is.

for example i don't think i could communicate to you that spelling correctly is an achievement only for 5 year olds.

i missed a letter - congratulations ! go tell your mother about your success - maybe she will give you a candy.
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Don't you know candy will rot your teeth, boy?
 
NEUROSPORT said:
well if they are so busy advancing their daily lives they better all be millionaires.

but they're not. so they're still retards.
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Your attempt at logic has caused small levels of retardation amongst those who have read that statement.
 
ok this thread while it was never supposed to have a point is getting even more pointless than it was intended to be
 
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NEUROSPORT said:
ok this thread while it was never supposed to have a point is getting even more pointless than it was intended to be
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That was the point.
 
Okay, yeah, so ... I know many people probably jumped on you for this, but I want a turn too.

NEUROSPORT said:
i have come to the conclusion that most people are not conscious most of the time.

every day i feel less and less motivated to argue with people because i see that they are ultimately not capable of understanding anything.
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If a person does not understand something, it does not mean they are not conscious. Look up the definition of that word somewhere.

question is - should i feel sorry for or try to help people who as far as i am concerned do not intellectually exist ?
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By whatever string I am holding on to this argument, I will attempt to respond to that. If a human exists, then they intellectually exist.

Hell, I feel sorry for you because you asked such a dumb question.

i mean if you are attacked by a rabid dog - do you feel sorry for the dog ? do you argue with it ? or do you shoot it ?
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First, you cannot argue with the dog. Second, you can feel sorry for the dog, but the dog is unable to acknowledge that he understands your sorrow. Third, it depends on whether you have a gun or not.

i mean there is a dfiference between makign a mistake, being incapacitated by drugs and/or alcohol and simply not having a brain.
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That's a true statement that you just made. There is a difference between those things, good job.

if you make a mistake i feel sorry for you. if you are drunk maybe ill catch up with you when you're in better shape. but if if you are just physically incapable of understanding ANYTHING, EVER, AT ALL ... how am i supposed to feel about a person like that ? this is most people mind you.
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What you're supposed to do is just freaking get over it. Move on, because if you really feel that way then you become someone who is incapable of noticing the impossibility in your own argument. Go ahead, try talking to someone who doesn't have a brain.

I name you a lucky man if you find a human on this planet that is capable of "not understanding anything, ever, at all," because that's impossible.



I'm gonna take a stab at your poll question as well. What the hell kind of question is that? How is it even possible to feel sorry for someone who doesn't exist? That would be an infinite amount of sorrow.

The number of people who don't exist is an infinite number, which means that it is an amount people that can only be measured by describing how immeasurable it is. An infinite amount of any human thing is impossible, even sorrow.

Now I know there are a bunch of people arguing about this with you. My point in arguing here is that if you are really making such a stupid thread, then you should be prepared to face the consequence that people will continue to argue with you, even if its three days after you posted the poll.
 
The poll question is an entirely different question from the title of thread question.
 
NEUROSPORT said:
i have come to the conclusion that most people are not conscious most of the time.

every day i feel less and less motivated to argue with people because i see that they are ultimately not capable of understanding anything.

question is - should i feel sorry for or try to help people who as far as i am concerned do not intellectually exist ?

i mean if you are attacked by a rabid dog - do you feel sorry for the dog ? do you argue with it ? or do you shoot it ?

i mean there is a dfiference between makign a mistake, being incapacitated by drugs and/or alcohol and simply not having a brain.

if you make a mistake i feel sorry for you. if you are drunk maybe ill catch up with you when you're in better shape. but if if you are just physically incapable of understanding ANYTHING, EVER, AT ALL ... how am i supposed to feel about a person like that ? this is most people mind you.
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lolz. I guessed this thread was going to be some pro or anti-abortion argument.
 
NEUROSPORT said:
right. i only studied physics since 5th grade in USSR and only have two engineering degrees. what do i know about technology.
i never said that lowering the speed limit would not reduce energy demands. it's not my problem that you can't understand what i am saying.

you used an example of a car designed before the oil crisis of the 70s to make it seem as if my statement was wrong. instead you could have tried to simply understand my point.

after the oil crisis of the 70s fuel economy improved mostly because we simpy dropped our standards and started driving small, sh1tty cars with no power. then in the 90s cars started getting bigger and faster again. many cars like Camry and Accord have almolst doubled their power and gained hundreds of pounds of weight. Some cars like Infinity G sedan have more than doubled their power going from 140hp to more than 330hp. That power didn't come for free. I drove a 2009 G37x around brooklyn for a weekend and it went through an entire tank of premium gas in that time. By contrast in my father's 1995 Chrysler LHS ( the biggest Chrysler and one of the biggest sedans made in those times ) i was able to get all the way to Toronto, Canada on a single tank of gas back in the day.

Of the people i know including myself and my parents the ones who drive brand new cars get fuel economy that is MUCH WORSE than ones who drive cars that are 10 years old. Yes these new cars are twice as powerful and much bigger - but that is preciesely the point.

i know how virtually every single gas saving technology works. but fact of the matter is there isn't a single car out there right now that can deliver the driving experience i am after that is fuel efficient. Tesla roadster would be an exception but since i live in a city i have nowhere to plug it in.

all the hybrids today are either slow ( civic, prius, camry ) or not very fuel efficient ( GS450h, LS600h ).

turbodiesel technology that has been around since forever delivers fuel economy comparable to that of hybrids. if you want to save gas you still have to drive a small sh1tty car just like you did in the 80s.
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So many contradictions....so little time.....
You have your panties in a wad and are ranting against everyone here. But YOU are the only sentient being, right?
More like sociopath....

You say you studied physics in Russia since 5th grade, but you know so little....Must be why Russia is a failing country.
 
This is actually a decent question, but better answered by the answer to another question.

Why do sentient beings deserve moral treatment? Figure that one out and examine if the reason for why, if sentient beings deserve moral treatment, non-sentient do not.
 
UtahBill said:
So many contradictions....so little time.....
You have your panties in a wad and are ranting against everyone here. But YOU are the only sentient being, right?
More like sociopath....

You say you studied physics in Russia since 5th grade, but you know so little....Must be why Russia is a failing country.
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Russia is a failing country because people like me have left it.

how about you actually confront my argument ?
 
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