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Thread: do being that are not sentient deserve moral treatment ?

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    Re: do being that are not sentient deserve moral treatment ?

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    i have come to the conclusion that most people are not conscious most of the time.

    every day i feel less and less motivated to argue with people because i see that they are ultimately not capable of understanding anything.

    question is - should i feel sorry for or try to help people who as far as i am concerned do not intellectually exist ?

    i mean if you are attacked by a rabid dog - do you feel sorry for the dog ? do you argue with it ? or do you shoot it ?

    i mean there is a dfiference between makign a mistake, being incapacitated by drugs and/or alcohol and simply not having a brain.

    if you make a mistake i feel sorry for you. if you are drunk maybe ill catch up with you when you're in better shape. but if if you are just physically incapable of understanding ANYTHING, EVER, AT ALL ... how am i supposed to feel about a person like that ? this is most people mind you.
    Umm ... it may be my lack of sleep but someone please tell me i am not the only one who has no clue what he is going on about :/


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    Re: do being that are not sentient deserve moral treatment ?

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    oh he can walk for all i care. i am amazed at his arrogance to think he has the right to dictate to other people how we should live. and he thinks he is doing this for our own good. and he probably thinks he is a humble person too. and he probably is - he just doesn't have a concept of anything.
    In case you hadn't noticed but pretty much every state has some sort of speed limit laws. Driving is not a right. It is a priviledge. Which is why you can be denied a drivers license.

    Suggesting a lower speed limit is not telling you how to live anyways. Telling you what to eat, how to eat, how to dress, what shows to like, what shows not to like etc etc etc is telling you how to live.

    In anycase technically he does have a right to tell you how to live. Along with every other person that votes. As you have a right to do also. If he didn't then people could kill other people without breaking any laws...as there would be no laws against killing.
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    Re: do being that are not sentient deserve moral treatment ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    In anycase technically he does have a right to tell you how to live. Along with every other person that votes.
    that's what you've been brainwashed to believe.

    in fact nobody has the right to tell me how to live.

    USA was founded as a constitutional republic, not a democracy.

    Republic vs. Democracy

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    Re: do being that are not sentient deserve moral treatment ?

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    that's what you've been brainwashed to believe.

    in fact nobody has the right to tell me how to live.

    USA was founded as a constitutional republic, not a democracy.

    Republic vs. Democracy
    This does not stop me from being able to tell you what I like. To live, what to eat anything. Freedom of speech baby!

    PS I know what you mean, but it is to much fun to poke fun.

    Man lighten up and be happy.
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    Re: do being that are not sentient deserve moral treatment ?

    First, I would accept everyone in Earth being a little retarded if at the same time they became kind. There are worse things than stupidity.

    Second, I never assume that I'm going to convince someone who posts on political boards-- but I might convince someone who reads them. My posts and the responses to them are form the structure of a dichotomy that might benefit others.

    Third, I feel sorry for anything I have to kill.

    Fourth, chill.
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    Re: do being that are not sentient deserve moral treatment ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I never assume that I'm going to convince someone who posts on political boards-- but I might convince someone who reads them.
    does anybody really read political forums and not post on them ?

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    Re: do being that are not sentient deserve moral treatment ?

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    does anybody really read political forums and not post on them ?
    I certainly have.

    You should also understand that your stuff might be read years from now. This is the best argument for using good grammar and an expanded vocabulary. The search engines are always becoming more sophisticated, and will increasingly attempt to assess the quality of the material they index.

    My, for lack of a better term let's say "sect," believes that there is tremendous value in enlightening even one individual, but stresses that we only rarely understand the positive influences we have on people we never suspect.

    One more thing I'll tell you, and please hear it in the light of the fact that I wouldn't bother with anyone who I thought couldn't understand. We are all idiots at one time of another. Men just need ask their fathers if that has ever been true about themselves. What was that old song? It had lyrics that went, "everyone plays the Fool, no exceptions to the rule."
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    Re: do being that are not sentient deserve moral treatment ?

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    that's what you've been brainwashed to believe.

    in fact nobody has the right to tell me how to live.

    USA was founded as a constitutional republic, not a democracy.

    Republic vs. Democracy
    From your own link.

    Republic. That form of government in which the powers of sovereignty are vested in the people and are exercised by the people, either directly, or through representatives chosen by the people, to whome those powers are specially delegated. [NOTE: The word "people" may be either plural or singular. In a republic the group only has advisory powers; the sovereign individual is free to reject the majority group-think. USA/exception: if 100% of a jury convicts, then the individual loses sovereignty and is subject to group-think as in a democracy.]
    We vote for a representitive correct? We expect that representitive to champion our causes. Which includes driving restrictions, and can include everything else..including how you should eat, what you should eat, what shows you should watch, etc etc etc. If that representitive does not champion the causes that we demand of them then they will not get re-elected. And if you truely believe that we can ignore any law that is passed just because you think that it is just "advise" then I have a little homework for ya. Go out and break someones window. See what happens.

    You are right that we are a republic. But we are also a democracy. We may not have any real say directly in any laws passed by Congress or the Senate. But we do indirectly through our representitives. And even further through jury nullification.

    Of course this is all on a federal level. On a state level people can and do vote for laws. Don't believe me? Then look up Prop 8 in California.
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    Re: do being that are not sentient deserve moral treatment ?

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    does anybody really read political forums and not post on them ?
    I read this political forum for about 2-3 years before I started posting on it.
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
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    Re: do being that are not sentient deserve moral treatment ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    You should also understand that your stuff might be read years from now. This is the best argument for using good grammar and an expanded vocabulary.
    we are approaching singularity ( an artificial intelligence explostion resulting from a critical mass giving rise to a chain reaction ). predicting the future beyond that point is impossible.
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