View Poll Results: Are ANY government regulations of the 2nd Amendment acceptable?

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  • No. It's a Constitutional Right & no regulatioins are acceptable.

    39 41.05%
  • Yes. Reasonable regulations are acceptable.

    45 47.37%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry full auto weapons.

    22 23.16%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry flame throwers.

    11 11.58%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry tactical nukes.

    1 1.05%
  • gun restrictions are necessary to prevent unauthorized use by nuts.

    16 16.84%
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Thread: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    YOU fail. To understand the very nature of a normative discussion.
    On the contrary -- I understand the nature, perfectly well.

    -Your- argument necessarily fails, as is it unsupported by anything substantive.

    The only thing that can -ever- change that is for you to show, with something substantive, that the bolded statement is true.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Simple possesion of a firearm by a clinically insane person does endanger people.
    My comment wasnt directed to or at clinically insane people, it was, given the context of the post I responsed to, directed toward the law-abiding citizenry in general.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    What I'm arguing is that the gun makes it a whole lot easier for a person who is crazy to kill you. Yeah, a guy with a pencil can kill you, but he'll most likely have to work much harder then he would have to with a gun.
    That doesnt change the fact that simple possession -- by a person who has the right to keep and bear arms -- doesn't endanger anyone.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    My comment wasnt directed to or at clinically insane people, it was, given the context of the post I responsed to, directed toward the law-abiding citizenry in general.
    Who doesn't need to be restricted from gun use and ownership. The clinically insane person would be restricted from gun ownership and usage.
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    That doesnt change the fact that simple possession -- by a person who has the right to keep and bear arms -- doesn't endanger anyone.
    Well if the guy is crazy...
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Well if the guy is crazy...
    I said:

    That doesnt change the fact that simple possession -- by a person who has the right to keep and bear arms -- doesn't endanger anyone.

    This covers crazy people, who do not have that right.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Do we collectively (the government) have a right to regulate/control a law abiding citizen's 2nd Amendment Rights?
    I am always amused when Liberals have polls on the second amendment because the following choices you included in your poll basically spell out the arrogance and condescension one sees when having such serious debates:

    A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry full auto weapons.
    A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry flame throwers.
    A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry tactical nukes.
    gun restrictions are necessary to prevent unauthorized use by nuts.


    Once again, you cannot possibly be serious right?


    But again, the real reason such polls are farcical is that we already have a HUGE pile of regulations on weapons in this country and to engage in such a debate presumes there either aren't any, or not enough. It is trite and disingenuous, but then when it comes to the second amendment, or the first for that matter, the Left prefers a selective interpretation rather than accept the language contained within the document.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I said:

    That doesnt change the fact that simple possession -- by a person who has the right to keep and bear arms -- doesn't endanger anyone.

    This covers crazy people, who do not have that right.
    And they can keep their guns. No need to keep people from having guns if there is no danger in it. The only regulation in this field that I am arguing for is keeping guns away from clinically insane people. No regulation would dictate that they would be able to carry, and use guns, right? I'm arguing against that, and only that.
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    And they can keep their guns. No need to keep people from having guns if there is no danger in it. The only regulation in this field that I am arguing for is keeping guns away from clinically insane people. No regulation would dictate that they would be able to carry, and use guns, right? I'm arguing against that, and only that.
    Yes... and -I- ewas arguing against the statement that:

    For example - after looking at factors like population and crime rate, they may decide it wouldn't be a great idea for people to have automatic rifles in one place or another.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Yes... and -I- ewas arguing against the statement that:
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