View Poll Results: Are ANY government regulations of the 2nd Amendment acceptable?

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  • No. It's a Constitutional Right & no regulatioins are acceptable.

    39 41.05%
  • Yes. Reasonable regulations are acceptable.

    45 47.37%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry full auto weapons.

    22 23.16%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry flame throwers.

    11 11.58%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry tactical nukes.

    1 1.05%
  • gun restrictions are necessary to prevent unauthorized use by nuts.

    16 16.84%
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Thread: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You can start by respondng to this post:
    Look...Some of us actually want to get back on topic here. I'm through playing...The next post of yours that attempts to derail this topic will get reported so that you can be (hopefully) removed from this thread.

    Knock it off!
    Last edited by Devil505; 09-21-09 at 01:30 PM.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Look...Some of us actually want to get back on topic here. I'm through playing...The next post of yours that attempts to derail this topic will get reported so that you can be (hopefully) removed from this thread.

    Knock it off!
    Yawn.


    So you can continue filling the thread with "automatic weapons" this that, and hand grenades / swine flu.


    You've done nothing but try and divert from the actual thread.. and when called on it.. you cannot answer legitimately... it is you who should be removed from this thread, because you cannot see past your biased pointy little nose.
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Look...Some of us actually want to get back on topic here. I'm through playing...
    Good -- that means you will respond to my post.

    [You are] Absolutely incorrect.
    Driving on public roads is a privilege.
    Keeping and bearing arms is a right.
    Arguing that because the state may regulate the former it may then regulate the latter in a similar manner is non-sequitur.

    As I noted before, and as you ignored, any and all constitutional restrictions on the right to arms would necessarily parallel those on the right to free speech.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Good -- that means you will respond to my post.
    No I won't.

    Anyone else want to discuss the topic .......of which I'm the OP & am trying to stop the derail attempts?
    Last edited by Devil505; 09-21-09 at 01:43 PM.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    No I won't.
    Of course not -- because you know your positions are indefensible.

    And, because you are not a serious debater, hoping only to find people who are dumb enough to fall for your 4th grade tricks.

    You are absolutely incorrect.
    Driving on public roads is a privilege.
    Keeping and bearing arms is a right.
    Arguing that because the state may regulate the former it may then regulate the latter in a similar manner is non-sequitur.

    As I noted before, and as you ignored, any and all constitutional restrictions on the right to arms would necessarily parallel those on the right to free speech.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Moderator's Warning:
    Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?Alright. EVERYONE needs to get back on topic and focusing on the actual topic, not each other. If you don't feel a poster is worth responding to then don't respond, stop derailing the thread by making posts just insulting and focusing on individuals and why you won't listen. If a poster isn't responding to you posting over, and over, and over again essentially going "I'm waiting" is not adding anything to the thread.

    The next person to derail the topic or complain in thread about people going "off topic" is getting the boot.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Moderator's Warning:
    Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?Alright. EVERYONE needs to get back on topic and focusing on the actual topic, not each other. If you don't feel a poster is worth responding to then don't respond, stop derailing the thread by making posts just insulting and focusing on individuals and why you won't listen. If a poster isn't responding to you posting over, and over, and over again essentially going "I'm waiting" is not adding anything to the thread.

    The next person to derail the topic or complain in thread about people going "off topic" is getting the boot.
    Hey Zyphlin... it's not exactly like your post is on topic here either.

    ...gets ready for the "boot".


    Back on topic: It seems obvious that the amendment is clear and concise. No infringment upon individuals owning arms is acceptable. Who can dispute that?
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Back on topic: It seems obvious that the amendment is clear and concise. No infringment upon individuals owning arms is acceptable. Who can dispute that?
    The obvious question is then: what constitutes an 'infringement'.

    I'd argue that, generally:
    -Preconditions to the exercise of the right that are not inherent to same
    -Prior restraint, in relevant terms.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The obvious question is then: what constitutes an 'infringement'.

    I'd argue that, generally:
    -Preconditions to the exercise of the right that are not inherent to same
    -Prior restraint, in relevant terms.
    Sounds good, basically anything that keeps a firearm out of the hands of a law abiding citizen (prior restraint) and no preconditions except for criminals and mentally handicapped etc?
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Sounds good, basically anything that keeps a firearm out of the hands of a law abiding citizen (prior restraint) and no preconditions except for criminals and mentally handicapped etc?
    Pretty much.

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