View Poll Results: Are ANY government regulations of the 2nd Amendment acceptable?

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  • No. It's a Constitutional Right & no regulatioins are acceptable.

    39 41.05%
  • Yes. Reasonable regulations are acceptable.

    45 47.37%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry full auto weapons.

    22 23.16%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry flame throwers.

    11 11.58%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry tactical nukes.

    1 1.05%
  • gun restrictions are necessary to prevent unauthorized use by nuts.

    16 16.84%
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Thread: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    So....Do YOU agree that our government can infringe on my right to own certain weapons, even though it is prohibited from doing so by the 2nd amendment?
    When you asked for serious answers at the top of this page I assumed you wanted a substantive discussion.

    Now, however, you're asking loaded questions in place of addressing the points of my argument.

    You don't have a right to unconventional weapons. You never did.

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    Your question is dubious in that it's based on a false premise. The 2nd never did grant you the right to just any weapon at all. Since you never had the right to Nukes, I have no issue with the state telling you "no".

    "Arms" never meant "all weapons".
    Last edited by Jerry; 08-26-09 at 04:45 PM.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post

    "Arms" never meant "all weapons".
    & you know what the founding fathers meant how?

    A serious question. Why should we accept YOUR interpretation of what the word "Arms" means in the 2nd amendment?
    I read it as meaning Weapons in the generic.
    Last edited by Devil505; 08-26-09 at 04:53 PM.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    & you know what the founding fathers meant how?
    I can read.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I can read.

    So can I....& I'll ask you again:

    Why should we accept YOUR interpretation of what the word "Arms" means in the 2nd amendment?
    I read it as meaning Weapons in the generic.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The 2nd never did grant you the right to just any weapon at all. Since you never had the right to Nukes, I have no issue with the state telling you "no".

    "Arms" never meant "all weapons".
    Many of your fellow gun enthusiasts disagree with you & believe the 2nd amendment does .."grant you the right to just any weapon at all."....... Why are they wrong??

    (I happen to agree with you, as I'm sure you know. I was just trying to draw out the far right fringe argument that I hear so often)
    Last edited by Devil505; 08-26-09 at 05:02 PM.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    So can I....& I'll ask you again:

    Why should we accept YOUR interpretation of what the word "Arms" means in the 2nd amendment?
    I read it as meaning Weapons in the generic.
    You're not taking my word for it.

    I haven't said anything under my own authority.

    You're taking the word of SCOTUS. It was they whom I quoted.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Many of your fellow gun enthusiasts disagree with you & believe the 2nd amendment does .."grant you the right to just any weapon at all."....... Why are they wrong??

    (I happen to agree with you, as I'm sure you know. I was just trying to draw out the far right fringe argument that I hear so often)
    They're wrong because their personal opinions are incongruent with objectively observed and verifiable legal fact, as sourced.

    Opinions can be wrong, and this is one such example.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You're not taking my word for it.

    I haven't said anything under my own authority.

    You're taking the word of SCOTUS. It was they whom I quoted.

    I added a sentence to my above reply b4 you answered...just FYI

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I added a sentence to my above reply b4 you answered...just FYI
    You're basically arguing with SCOTUS here. All I'm doing is relying the facts. I'm not stating anything on my own, I'm not using my own authority or offering my personal opinions. I am giving you the facts. If you read the 2nd differently, then it's you who are wrong.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You're basically arguing with SCOTUS here. All I'm doing is relying the facts. I'm not stating anything on my own, I'm not using my own authority or offering my personal opinions. I am giving you the facts. If you read the 2nd differently, then it's you who are wrong.

    I think we had a useful an calm discussion here.
    Thanks.

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