View Poll Results: Are ANY government regulations of the 2nd Amendment acceptable?

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  • No. It's a Constitutional Right & no regulatioins are acceptable.

    39 41.05%
  • Yes. Reasonable regulations are acceptable.

    45 47.37%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry full auto weapons.

    22 23.16%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry flame throwers.

    11 11.58%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry tactical nukes.

    1 1.05%
  • gun restrictions are necessary to prevent unauthorized use by nuts.

    16 16.84%
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post


    (BTW, I am again amazed that you didn't know NICS doesn't take a week?).

    Missed this the first time through.....Are we back to "You're a liar & never were a LEO argument?

    especially after this from yesterday??
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    Thanks, I'd say that pretty much settles that.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Missed this the first time through.....Are we back to "You're a liar & never were a LEO argument?
    He did not say anything even close.

    Nice ad-hom though.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    And how will you feel when...a school full of children is massacred by some institutionally insane man, because he could get a gun anywhere, anytime???
    If criminals do not obey the law in the first place then why would they obey anti-2nd amendment laws? If the guy has no record then what good does a back ground check do any ways? And if the guy does have a record why would he go the legal route to purchase a firearm?
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    And how will you feel when...a school full of children is massacred by some institutionally insane man, because he could get a gun anywhere, anytime???
    Appeal to emotion fallacy. Fail.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    And how will you feel when...a school full of children is massacred by some institutionally insane man, because he could get a gun anywhere, anytime???

    Sweet!

    How will you feel when a person goes to a school and shoots up the place? err.. oh.. wait.. it's already happened.

    k... How will you feel when a person goes nuts and shoots everyone in a federal building? oh... err... uh.. yeah... those damn gun free zones.

    k... lets see.. how will you feel when a person goes nuts and shoots up an NRA convention, or gun show? OH.. you won't.. cause it won't happen.. WHY? Because the ****ing pussy that'd shoot up other places where people are disarmed wouldn't dare shoot up a place where he'll be met with equal force in return.

    How hard is that to grasp?

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    That guy isn't going to go legally purchase a brand spanking new gun for that, for one. For two, if he has a clean record and he goes to purchase a brand spanking new gun for that purpose, the background check screwed the pooch. Yes?
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If criminals do not obey the law in the first place then why would they obey anti-2nd amendment laws? If the guy has no record then what good does a back ground check do any ways? And if the guy does have a record why would he go the legal route to purchase a firearm?
    Institutionally insane doesn't necessarily mean criminal. He might target a school of just minorities, and believe he is cleansing the country or something. Virginia Tech is really enough said on this subject in all. He bought a gun, legally, and then illegally shot and killed quite a few people.
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Appeal to emotion fallacy. Fail.
    First off, that has got to be the most pathetic thing ever.

    Second, let me rephrase that. Think of the repercussions of 100 dead kindergarteners splashed across the breaking news on Fox and CNN. Of course, people are going to blame the government first for low regulations. Second, people are going to get mad at the NRA for something or the other, but they'll get off the hook. The government, however, will have to take the fall, and regulation will eventually be put in place due to the event, after exorbitant death, and god knows how many tax payer dollars to get this done.

    Or, we could simply look at the facts, and put in place more background checks, laws, regulation, and whatever to keep the public safe.

    I don't know about you, but I'd rather have less people carrying guns, and more pissed about it, then too many carrying guns, and not enough people to say anything against it.
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    Sweet!

    How will you feel when a person goes to a school and shoots up the place? err.. oh.. wait.. it's already happened.

    k... How will you feel when a person goes nuts and shoots everyone in a federal building? oh... err... uh.. yeah... those damn gun free zones.

    k... lets see.. how will you feel when a person goes nuts and shoots up an NRA convention, or gun show? OH.. you won't.. cause it won't happen.. WHY? Because the ****ing pussy that'd shoot up other places where people are disarmed wouldn't dare shoot up a place where he'll be met with equal force in return.

    How hard is that to grasp?
    1. It can, and probably will be worse in the future.
    2. Look at #1

    3. If I was going to go shoot up anyone, the first people I would personally shoot up is a bunch of gun-totting idiots, and make sure I do it good. But thats just me. And you'd also want to probably take out any resistance, in a chain of hits, so kill the local NRA at a meeting, then go **** up the area.
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    I would like to ask all of you saying no regulations are acceptable, what if your parents, lover, or children were shot and killed. The police find out that the perpetrator killed your loved one expressely because there was not enough regulation. Would that change your view point in this matter? Would you then support more regulation, or regulation at that?
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    First off, that has got to be the most pathetic thing ever.
    Yeah, logic's a bitch, ain't it?
    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Second, let me rephrase that. Think of the repercussions of 100 dead kindergarteners splashed across the breaking news on Fox and CNN. Of course, people are going to blame the government first for low regulations. Second, people are going to get mad at the NRA for something or the other, but they'll get off the hook. The government, however, will have to take the fall, and regulation will eventually be put in place due to the event, after exorbitant death, and god knows how many tax payer dollars to get this done.

    Or, we could simply look at the facts, and put in place more background checks, laws, regulation, and whatever to keep the public safe.

    I don't know about you, but I'd rather have less people carrying guns, and more pissed about it, then too many carrying guns, and not enough people to say anything against it.
    Pretty much all I have to do to defeat this argument is point to Washington, D.C. It has the strictest gun laws in the country, and it has the most murders as well. Coincidence? Hardly.

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